I kinda like the point that Chaos Magic makes "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." That pretty much means that their is no true way but yet people get something out of their beleifs so it must work even though it may not really be the "true religion" if there is such a thing. Ultimately I thi...

One thing I know about hypnosis is that it doesn't stick if you don't keep it up. That's just how the subconcious works, it is so use to you changeing your mind it just doesn't stick to one idea. So I think I will be alright as long as I don't play along.

How long does it usually take for a curse to set in? I've listened to the cum curse for a couple of days and have since changed my mind about it. I don't think it has affected me much it still taste nasty the first time I've tried haven't tasted it since. I do feel compelled to listen to it though b...

Thanks for the response drydreamer come to think of it I think it is more of a tongue in cheek refrence to the Satanic paradigm and to be more descriptive Satanist believe in rationality above all. A Satanist wouldn't litterialy think that they could atain godhood much more realisticly they would be...

That sounds similar to Satanism drydreamer except they pay their taxes. Probably the reason why you have to pay 100$ to join the church. That and they believe that humans still need spirituality albiet in a Jungian anti-christian way. I think the whole concept of humans being god has more to do with...

I don't know where you go after you die. I assume that there is nothing, and I believe every thing else is a fantasy to make people feel better. I don't find the bleak nothingness after death scare me though because atleast I will finally be at peace. Although part of me hopes there is more, but I g...

I'm not sure what you expect to hear makidas. But here are some links for those who are interested. Spiral nature is probably the best one if you just want to get some basic info.

http://www.spiralnature.com/
http://www.chaosmagic.com/
http://www.occultforums.com/

I would be willing to invest some time into moderating Religion and politics although I think Idle Chatter would be good also. I'm affraid I'm just familiar with being a regular forum member, but I would definately like the experience. Just let me know if you could use me. I will work on provideing ...

You're not wrong sandy82. I just thought that this thread was started to figure out what people thought about the discussion of morality especially from a theoligical context to lay down some ground rules and to get a general feel for what the members want, within 5 days. I think if people still wan...

I just assumed this was a dead subject because the voting time is well over 5 days, their is real no reason for me to post an opinion about it anymore. Atleast that's how I feel.

If you have a mind towards the occult many people think that they are modern day ferries playing tricks on us, which is why there is no concrete evidence yet. This seems plossible because both myths have similarites. i.e. abducting people, they come from different worlds, fey and human mating transl...

I deleted my last post because I wasn't sure what we could or could not talk about theologically, but I reread emg's post in idle chatter and it looks like we are ok as long as we don't talk about morality which isn't what this discussion is about, neither is it about wether occultist ought to convi...

I think people should do what works if they use the occult and find that it enriches their lifes then they should keep doing it. If they would feel silly doing such things then why bother. I'm not going to go into a big argument about why I think the occult works. Why would I? Those who have practic...

I think maybe I didn't understand the question... I like to talk about theology and sometimes morality questions arise when I discuss it but to be honest I don't really give a crap on what type of files people listen to. Truth be told my only morales are to not hurt animals and children. Something I...

I've heard that your subconcious is used to you changeing your mind so much any way that it doesn't take you seriously, that means if you have a hard time snapping out of anything even a behavior just be patient and give it some time eventually your subconcious will revert.

I'll have to agree that we should have a forum for theology if we do decide to post about theoligical topics, and I'm voting yes because some of the topics of the files are for certain life styles and religion is a life style and not every ones in a procelitising religion or in a religion where feti...

Thanks for the correction mortal. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be in war or that things are going on where people aren't sinning(according to christian thought). My frustration all together is not with the actions but it's with the message. In a sense I guess I'm a hypocrit because if Bush wasn...

Satanists do not require Christianity to exist, if you don't believe me, check out www.thechurchofsatan.com. All for now. Actually Makidas if it wasn't for christianity Anton Szandor Lavey may not have made some of the observations he has made, that's not to say that the philosophy of satanism woul...

Well I just want to make it clear that I don't identify my spiritual views as any religion mainly because I find dogma even satanic dogma enslaving but my world view philosophy at the moment is mostly Satanism with a little budist philosophy. I know it's seems weird but I think one need parodoxes in...

Well where to begin? First of all I'm suprised this thread hasn't been locked yet because we haven't trailed off topic we destroyed the topic and turned it into a battle. Don't get me wrong it's good to vent but, I'd like to get this shindig back on topic. As I have said I've studied satanism and ha...

I've grown up mormon and since have jumped to wiccan and satanism(LaVeyen). However this doesn't make me an expert, in fact I'm the last person to ask about religous morales. But if you are christian than most of the files on here would be considered satanic because they inspire lust keep in mind th...

I once remember watching a show I think it was about advertising, but they were showing an old magazine and at first they just flipped through it but then they focused on a full page add in the magazine of a girl on swing with her legs in the air, but if you looked long enough you would notice an ex...

I don't remember when I first ran across this site. My main interest lies in the self-help, and recreational hypnosis. I'm also a big horn ball and find the idea of hypnosis and sex very exciting

I think for most people "psychics" and "occultist" it's more about personal development than it is about actuall science. I know my initial interest in anything "supernatural" is more about the psycholigical impact it has on me and not wether it is scientificly supported. I'm gonna be practicing stu...

The "Science of Vampires" is a pretty good book that you might want to check out if we are talking corporal vampires. I haven't read the whole thing but they talk about cellular regeneration and what type of change people would need to go through to survive off of blood alone.

Here is another good site that gives good explanations of what I'm talking about http://www.spiralnature.com/magick/index.html I personally liked the Models of Magick section and suggest most of the people to check it out it goes over the stuff we have been talking about. I think pseudo-skepticals w...

I'm sure my parents are proud that I'm a human, after all they had a hand in creating me. Other than that though I think of pride as something you usually haft to do to achieve it. I'm not proud I'm a human I did nothing to become one, just the same I'm not proud that I'm white I did nothing to get ...

http://www.killmusick.com/radio.blog/index.php?autoplay=0 This just takes you to the radio blog of killmusik.com it's the only thing I really like about this site. http://www.necrohiphop.com/ probably the best underground hardcore shit I've ever heard. http://www.sickanimation.com/ these cartoons ar...

LoadedKaos, I agree with you, on that faith is a matter of personal choice, and as long as it means something to the individual, then it's doing it's job in their eyes. So Chaos magicians experiment with every form of the occult but only continue with that which produces results? What about black m...

Thank you Linja! :oops: Just some ideas I've been thinking, Oh yeah for those who don't know what okhems razor is it's a scientific principal that states that when something happens or goes wrong it's usualy the simplest solution. You should just stick with what feels good for you. It's possible tha...

Sometimes I wonder if we don't end up dictating our destiny to us by trying to read the future. Like is something going to happen on 2012 because it was written in the stars or is something going to happen on 2012 because all these sources point to it and we believe these sources. Or maybe nothing w...

Whell I'd be lying to say I haven't gone back and started chatting at my old forum occultforums.com. Why? You may not have even asked this. So shut up I'm going to tell you anyway. No I'm still the same LK who is straddeling the two archetypes of the hardcore skeptic and the over zealous beleiver. L...

Although some of us don't believe in this out of body stuff. I' am open minded but I still have my reservations.

I'm only vaguely familiar with psychedelics. But it seems to me that if you are going to take anything with hypnosis it should help you focus, mushrooms and acid may help you with a suggestion whitch you need to hallucinate but I don't know if I've heard any one going into trance on it. I would thin...

Most notably for me lately is that my whole body will get warm. Sometimes I haft to turn on the fan and start over. I usually feel like I'm sleeping when I go under and I don't remember much. I probably should test my self with trig freeze. Although the fact that I wake up when the file is over rein...

That's a perfect example of trance. A little tid bit that has helped is I just pretend I'm watching comercials when I'm being hypnotized, and that all the comercials are advertising what the hypnotist is telling me. I find the tv associations work real well since this is a regular way for me to be h...

I'm a maybe I've experianced some weird things but I also think there is somethings about the brain which we don't know not necessarily psychic. Perhaps there will probably be more mundane scientific evidence to metaphysics in the future. When I say mundane I'm just saying it probably isn't what any...

I agree with danmarla, it's important to have a positive attitude about your ability to be hypnotized. I would also suggest try TrainSusceptable it works pretty well for me even if I snap out of it or I'm still not under after the induction I still eventually go under because the whole thing constan...

What about people being hypnotized to blead or get rashes in patterns. The subconscious regulates alot of physical changes. People can develop muscle strength from it. Erickson overcame his polio with the power of his subconscious. Just because most professionals haven't gone further down the subcon...

I've noticed that too. Which is why I went with slow women change.

We could. But I think since this site is largely hypno-fetish it would be better to have a general bdsm forum section and it would seem that if you had a forum discussion section for each of the particular files we could get rid of the help with files selection. I was merely pointing out that since ...

I know. The last comment was in jest!

We have just about every fetish group represented in the forums, well as far as the fetish groups that can find helpful files on here but I'm suprised that their isn't a general bdsm section in the forums. Well just thought I would put it out there. I would really like to see that. I was also going ...

I finally went under for a whole file even though I chopped up a bunch of files so I can play them while I sleep, although I just managed to go under for train succeptable then snapped out of it. Hmmm...Now I started with train succeptable and no doubt I went under, so I'm sure I can go under again ...

A relative of mine has add and he has some of the same characteristics that you've mentioned you have, and he's smart too. I would probably suggest to experiment with other forms of affecting the subconcious mind to maybe as reinforcers or simply mental exercises. I'm not sure of how add functions b...

I'm all for discussing what this thread was started for. :roll: As I've stated earlier I think tranceing to your own voice would be incredibly more effective for most individuals. I've finally got my recording stuff set up now I just need a time to record without my family thinking I'm a weirdo from...

Actually that's what I thought was wrong with it. Ironically I thought it was too short and only overviewed hypnosis in general it would be nice if the author singled out some stuff rather than vaguely describing some methods. I realize your not responsible for boring me it's not your job to make th...

Wow, that's a good point. Well maybe it was out of line I apologize, either way it probably wasn't necasary for me to post my opinion anyway. I did find the article interesting though.

I know I'm very informative aren't I?

I actually read a book where the author was giving a discussion on hypnosis with lawyers. She decided to hypnotize them. So she had them right down one thing they wanted to change put them under then had them while hypnotized look at what they wrote down for their change and to close their eyes afte...