Alien4420 wrote:I might add that the file can work in both directions: two gay guys have reported positive results from listening to its mirror twin, Curse Forced Straight.

Really? I don't remember this.

Hey, I find the dumb aspect to be pretty hot, so I'm not going to knock it. My preference, though, is for the ones that just increase focus...I don't need to be dumb, I just need to be intensely focused on working out, getting bigger, sex etc, etc I find the files that work best on me are the kind ...

Has anyone tried muscle dummy by major pixel? I'm thinking about giving it a try, but I don't want my first purchased file on this site to be a dud. Also, I love reading the success stories...it's too bad that most of the dumb jocks seem to lose interest in syrfing websites. I guess they're all out...

well, I mean sure... but these types of things can fade... and to be reminded of them... it's nearly irresistable :wink: Well that was your fault for letting it fade :wink: If you don't want to lose your intelligence, you could choose TrainTotalJock4. You could make up for using a slightly less joc...

0turner0 wrote:ack the temptation!

I thought you'd already given in to it :wink:

Let's get this thread going again :P

I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to age backwards no matter how much hypnosis is used. Aging is not controlled by the brain, and hypnosis only affects the brain.

Route42 wrote:I'm going to call bull on you there, Jeshi. I have yet to see any kind of scientific proof that says sexual attraction is biological.

There is some out there, such as correlations with physical features.

Have you yourself tried switching back and forth yet?

0turner0 wrote:Kind of a pity it was really good from what I read :wink:

Really? I thought you didn't like TTJ having that particular effect :wink:

I doubt that happened in this case.

Anyone else notice geektohotjock deleting his stuff after only a week? It's odd considering he was updating every day. It would be impolite of me to mention exactly what was in it since he deleted it, but those who read it will understand what I mean when I say he probably found it a bit... too succ...

Also, just my personal opinion, but I think the masculinisation files we have focus too much on the jock deal. All brawn, no brain tends to be the common theme. I'd prefer something fitting more with traditional views of masculinity, educated, athletic, charismatic, responsible and virtuous. All at...

curiousguy92 wrote:I definitely agree that there should be more masculinization files for men. Fem just isn't my thing, and I'd love to see more masc and muscle files on the site. :D

Well, the TTJ series is already there, as is CFS/Bi...

trawl wrote:Sounds like a wonderful idea to me.

IM me about it sometime!

I see lots of guys into feminisation here, but not so many guys who are interested in becoming more masculine, even though the files are there for it; TrainTotalJock and CurseForcedStraight/Bi for instance I don't want to use them myself, but I'd be very willing to encourage and follow progress of a...

homerj1620 wrote:I was suggesting that if you want to become effeminate, why not go all the way?

Because effeminate males are still male.

Hey. Well when I started this I was bi leaning towards men, now im bi leaning towards women. I loved the female body, but never liked pussy. I can safely say that that has changed lol. I see. So why'd you decide to try the file? And are you going to keep using it? Also, do you have any IM details?

Ryan83 wrote:
Um, no.

Haven't you considered the other situation, then? That you might actually be nominally gay?

Ryan83 wrote:I am sick and tired of living like this.

To be honest, I think you love feeling helpless. Otherwise you'd actually be able to resist.

CFG does have some humiliation aspects to it, I think you're probably taking those on more than other listeners.

Sorry, I meant thatdude1 :P But your progress is always interesting too!

So what's your current orientation?

I think people are a lot more flexible in their responses to hypnosis than they realise. It's especially true with longer files. Hypnosis isn't a "take it or leave it" sort of thing; some suggestions will embed more deeply than others. Those which would definately be problematic generally have a har...

Which jock files are you using?

You're doing so much at once, you should be careful of conflicts...

As the other posters here have said, everyone's height varies throughout the day due to cartilage compression. Also, you're not going to get your measurement exactly the same each time anyway.

Hypnosis can't make someone taller or shorter. It's just not possible.

0turner0 wrote:You're thinking of TTJ2 - that's the one with all the liking women aspects :P

Oh, I see... well, you would know about that better than I would :wink:

joe wrote:Been listening to TTJ1 for about a week now

Doesn't TTJ conflict with CFG?

and on a completely different tangent, before i even listened to CFG, i was listening to TrainTotalJock - mostly the first installment, though i believe the third in the trilogy was originally my proposal on the voting page (wow i've been here awhile) - and claiming the same, hypnosis don't work on...

Since Encyclopedia dramatica is trying to create lulz by viewing this thread i decided to delete all info about my experience and will not continue to report on it. You can blame me for being a lulzkiller ED, I just don't want to be made a ass of myself over the internet. ED isn't a trolling group....

stereoxchild wrote:I'm still clean! :)
But you know what I miss?
The secret sexual excitement that a curse can give you.

How are you doing since your CFG experience anyway?~

A few guys have posted about their success with TrainTotalJock in the past, but curiously, they always seem to stop posting not long after it takes effect.

Do you think they get too dumb to post? Or do they just spend all their time working out? :P

Well, guess it's not a bad thing the oh so evil society 'brainwashed' us into believing being gay is not acceptable. Else there would be no longer a human species. That's a bit silly. Given the current population growth, do you think even substantial rates of homosexuality would make numbers begin ...

Anyways, what I see as a nice path for me, is the more masculine path. But the thing is, I also would like to be able to enjoy these femfeelings as well, without the negative consequences. I know the feelings are there and I like them and would want to team up again once in a while. Perhaps you nee...

The TrainTotalJock thing didn't really work out btw, I felt no real desire in listening more after a few days (also been pretty busy). I don't really think whether or not you become addicted to a file is a good indicator that it is actually working - especially if you've been busy. It might just be...

Alien4420 wrote:It's long been known that suggestion can cause allergic symptoms...

If suggestion can truly cause it, that doesn't mean suggestion can suppress it. If there is a direct chemical causative agent present I doubt any amount of suggestion can prevent the allergic reaction from taking place.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll pass. I just don't like the dumbing down, loosing interest in anything but sports etc. F.e. I'm a man of music, I wouldn't want to push that aside. From what I've read here on the forums, it seems those suggestions only work as far as you want them to. Tr...

I also tried some of these jock-like files, but they just did not appeal to me in the way the others did. During this file-less year I sometimes felt the desire to slide off again to more submissive and/or female fantasies but I never let it win. But lately it's getting more difficult. So in a way ...

Anyways, I decided I had to stop listening to these files, focus on improving myself, learn how to be a better man, go out, meet new girls,.. And yes, since I stopped (or since I got dumped?) my life changed for the better. Now it's a year later, a year without files and a year with many ups and do...

Though I don't think that necessarily applies to every suggestion, since a capable hypnotist can change the way you feel and what you believe so that you'll accept things you didn't before. One thing I'm sure of, and I wouldn't have believed it before I'd played with these files -- they really do c...

So have you actually had sexual experiences with guys yet?

So right now there's a battle between my wanting not to change back and . . . well, between my id and my superego. It's possible of course, that it's not just the file, and the 'real' you doesn't want you to change back either, even though the 'real' you didn't want CFG to work at first. P.S. Did y...

Not at all! Not that I'd knock them if they wanted to. I'd just say do what makes you happy. CFG has apparently made you happy though. CFS must have suggestions that do that also. You clearly think that being under the influence of CFS is better than being under the influence of CFG (you cannot now...

I know it was a dumb mistake to listen If you still believe in hypnosis in general though... then do you believe it's also a mistake for gay guys to not try listening to CFS (whether they were always gay or used CFG) as you are doing? Think a bit before you answer... if you really want to say yes, ...

If you guys are happy with the effects of CFG, why do you want to listen to CFS?

I was originally planning to listen to Curse Forced Straight to see if it would change me back, but now I'm not sure I will, since the file has made me happy to be gay and I'm hornier than I've been in years and reading enviously about the guys who listened and have boyfriends now. So while I'm sur...

Hypnosis requires focus. Anything that inhibits your focusing is not going to help you trance.

I've been listening to Curse Forced Gay for about two months now and it does change sexual orientation and other aspects of sexuality as well. Interesting, would you like to describe more of your experiences? I'm not sure about Curse Forced Straight, since I don't think I've seen any reports from g...

Aren't some of the actions involved in sexual orientation beyond voluntary control? True, but your actions tend to validate those feelings and responses, and thus strengthen them. Just because they aren't controlled voluntarily doesn't mean your actions can't affect them. That doesn't also denote a...

you start acting in that manner because you want to, and the two build off each other(your actions strengthen the suggestions, which strengthen your actions, etc) So as far as I am aware, as long as you want them to work, and allow them to work, they will. Aren't some of the actions involved in sex...

I'm having trouble believing that the suggestions relating to orientation in files like CurseForcedStraight and the jock files would actually work without issue or are safe to listen to. Has anyone actually tried these files or is planning on trying them and expecting their orientation to be affected?