but in practice, your concious mind would not allow suggestions like that to truly take effect. regardless, forgetting numbers has nothing to do with the intended effects of a "dumb" file.

the forgetting numbers thing is unrealistic, and im pretty sure no one who wants to "be dumb" wants to actually forget numbers exist, which would not be possible anyway. i'll give you suggestions, jekket, when i get the opportunity to hear the file. it should be free pretty soon here.

fuck pittsburgh. first carson now willis. your D coordinator is a bad man.

yo so i thought i should give every1 an update on this shit. so i stopped using the TTJ3 file i donno why i stopped just at some point i was always tired of lifting weights and i decided i wanted to lose weight instead of always trying to gain weight cuz im still fat. so now im doing the swimmers bo...

ite so i dont listen to tha file nearly as much nemore. prolly cuz skool is way harder this month so i got a lot less free time to do it. but im still doin good wit tha training an ppl have noticed. my weight is basically staying the same but im getting thinner which is good. i been focussing mor eo...

here man, do you still listen to the files much or has the whole jock thing completely taken over now? :) o hey dude i didnt see this be4. uh i still listen to tha file liek almost every day. it feels good to listen to tha file an liek i get so deep now. sumtimes ill go under and then "4...5...refr...

im on train total jock 2 now. ben on it for liek a week or so

well today i took a test at skool and i was loiek 1 of the last ppl to finish. my whol life i been 1 of the first to finishliek every test but today liek 80% of the class finished before mewhich is weird. so obviously the dumb part is workin. i dun even liek notice nemore when im bein dumb, its wier...

20 minutes is best

ya man well wutever works for u. glad ur having success too. these files must work rly well i havent talked t ne1 rly that hasnt had success wit them.

i dun liek the gay one cuz its liek a trigger thing instead of just overall u kno. an plus i love drinkin and i think im more suceptible to suggestion than u cuz even when i dun want shit to happen from files it does.

ite new update. i look forward to workin out every day n i wish i was always active but im not which sux. ppl on a msg board i usually go to been sayin my typing sux now they are the first ppl to notice any change in dumbness i guess u culd call it. im goin to tha mall this weekend to get sum new cl...

hey bro sry bout our argument b4 its cool if u like bitchface i mean hilary.

neway im glad ur finally starting. i hope it goes well for u. but i still dun think ushould be doin it at nite. if ur asleep ur not rly payin attention to the file sun kno.

hypnosis totally depends on your personal thoughts which differ between people obviously, binaural beats dont. the theory behind it says that if ur brain here's this frequency for this amount of time, it will start to process that frequency itself. how the hell could that be so different between peo...

no ne here rly seems to care about the science behind binaurals which makes them differ hugely from hypnosis. binaurals either work on everybody or work on nobody because of the science behind them. therefore if it doesnt work on any one person, it doesnt work on anyone and those who claim they do r...

the problem with binaurals is the science behind them suggests that it should work the same for everyone. i mean a theta wave is a theta wave and a sine wave is a sine wave there isnt any variables that would make it work for one person or another. unlike hypnosis which depends on ur own mind a lot.

i thought this was in response to me thats why i clarified that binaurals and hypnosis are way different. and i mention role players because thats what generates so many skeptics.

hey bro i suggest the train total jock instead of the train gay jock because the gay jock one is a little wack. as far as ur iq yea u will get dumber and u may fight it at first but at some point u will stop caring about it you just wnt think about it. i was worried about the same thing but now im g...

omg guys guess wut i found a study that says im rite. look now im credible woot. dont ask me about the study tho cuz i dun remember where it is.

the reason it gets brought up so much here is because half the people never actually go into trance and just role play. a quick look at the "show me your..." photo galleries is more than enuff prove of that. but honestly there is a huge different between using binaural beats and true hypnosis. the e...

i stopped reading when u continued to assert that "ive heard of a study somewhere" is a valid argument.

So you're saying that binaurals don't work. I've heard of research on this where they hooked up volunteers to an EEG and used binaurals on them. You know what the EEG showed? It showed that the subjects brainwaves did change to match the binaural. Now whether this is a placebo effect or will could ...

So you're saying that binaurals don't work. I've heard of research on this where they hooked up volunteers to an EEG and used binaurals on them. You know what the EEG showed? It showed that the subjects brainwaves did change to match the binaural. Now whether this is a placebo effect or will could ...

no proof that im wrong. my proof is personal experience and experiences of friends and ppl i know.

ok so weve pretty much settled that binaurals are a placebo. so why not just sit in a chair and pretend ur being put under since its the same damn thing? Hrobjartsson and Götzsche published a study in 2001 and a follow-up study in 2004 questioning the nature of the placebo effect. (Hrobjartsson 2001...

there is a difference between a medical placebo effect and wuts goin on with binaurals. with binaurals, ppl rly wanty to feel the desired effect so they pretend like they are feeling it when really the binaural is doing nothing. any effects of brain entrainment r all hypothetical and if someone was ...

I know all about binaurals and the theory behind them. wut im sayin is that it doesnt work like hippies think it does. its all a placebo. if they truly workede, it work for every person on the planet because there are no variables that would make it not work.

hate to burst anyone's bubble but binaurals are a load of crap and do not work. its all placebo really.

im thinking less and less about the file and just doing stuff without thinking about it. i keep on getting deeper and deeper when i listen to the file instead of having trouble getting into trance liek i used to. i continue my workouts every day and i can notice strength and apearence improving. im ...

ok its been another week so heres a update. im actually a pound heavier from last week but thats probly cuz theres liek 3 pounds of beer still sittin in me from last night. not rly much to say from this week. actually i did miss a class from drinkin when i had perfect attendence before and i got a D...

[quote="shivasjoy"]whats cubs? @ bdbu

cardigan, did you already make such a file?[/quote]

chicago cubs. at wrigley field u piss in troughs.

liek ppl have said i think bedtime and rite when i wake up r good times. also rite when i get back from working out works good. i find it easier to enter a trance when im sorta tired already.

dude fuck her brains out. if some hot ass dude decided to get naked around me all the time for no reason i'd be a happy camper.

i think 1kg is 1.3 lbs or sumthing.

o and im not sure wut u mean by catatonic or seizing.

like the back of my neck tenses a lot, my eyes roll down and usually open. i think i stay still mostly but my eyes just go crazy and my muscles are just real tense.

so ur saying i should try to just use that feeling to deepen the trance? but then i would be all sweaty and sore probly by the end of the session, and its probly not possible to stay tranced its pretty intense. anyway ill try to work on it i guess thanx.

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then losing a pound means nothing.

can anyone explain this to me? i find i can only go into deep trance very rarly. i think i know how to do it, but when my brain switches off, every muscle in my body tenses up and my eyes go crazy and im awake again. if i stay in a lite trance im fine but when i try to switch off my body goes crazy....

have u been dieting and working out.

maybe if ur mind was overactive as mine was u'd know how nice this feels.

plus its the best motivation to get in shape ever.

well im gunna skip the 2nd one cuz im gay and it has shit about fuckin women. but in a few months when i have a jock body and my mind is totally trained im gunna switch 2 the third one.

if it feels rly good and u keep wanting to listen 2 the files over and over, thats trance. the best trances r when u just stop thinking and ur head is just filled with the voice. it doesnt always have to feel like ur sleeping but sumtimes it dose.

ok its been a week so heres a update. wow lots ofshit has been goin on. i workout every day and i keep to a low cal hi protein diet. i lost 2 pounds! at first my brain rejected all the mental stuff but its starting to stop thinking about it. i dont liek to read or write anymore cuz it makes me think...

hey bro if u r kicking and stuff u r probly really deep, when im really deep in trance my body just starts moving a lot probly cuz my mind is seeing wut the guy is saying and starts to move my body along with it. so if its just the post hypnotic suggestions that arent working its prolly cuz ur expec...

i remember it saying sumthin like "u will not need to change your diet, these things will happen all on their own."

but if he does suggest dieting and working out and you follow that, u shuld see results.

i sure hope ur not a cubs fan lol

o shit actually i did listen to it (not the induction just th suggestions to see what they were)

its dumb they just tell u that ur gonna become hairless and lose weight without even trying cuz ur metablism will speed up. not possible through hypnosis.

swimmer body is not gunna work i havnt listened to it but theres no way it wuld work from the description.

if u wanna get in shape use train total jock i havent eaten bad food or gone a day without working out since i started it.

unless ur a girl then i dunno i guess ur SOL

train total jock has made me dumber but theres a lot more effects of that file tha nbeing dumb haha. but i find it hard to concentrate a lot of times unless im working out or watching a game or something. and normally my mind is always racing, constantly thinking and analyzing but now it moves a lot...

man yall need to get off this guy. who cares if hes lying or not. it does read like a MCstory drawn out over several posts but i was entertained by it no matter if it was fiction or not.