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Phantom_Lonestar wrote:what do you mean "not believed in" chirch wise? do they consider it a sin? or do they just not really like the concept of it?
BobbyS wrote:I heard one section of the Cathoic church believes hypnosis opens your mind to the devil - presumably they can't believe in demonic possession then, otherwise hypnosis would make no difference.
sandy82 wrote:The Catholic church would probably have three responses to the flaw you have found.
1. There is more than one road to London.
2. Please contribute now...and again later.
3. Please contribute now...and again later.
cardigan wrote:Actually a lot of religions use hypnosis in their ceremonies. That is - their ceremonies entrance their participants. Maybe not so much the "mainstream" versions of the catholic church or the protestant ditto, but certainly the minorities out there.
1. For instance: in many religions - or fractions of such - The congregation goes into a massive prayer - sometimes for hours, and then suddenly someone among them is overcome by the Holy Ghost and starts "speaking in tongues". The person will speak absolute gibberish, but is considered by the others in the congregation to be specially blessed - touched by God.
IMHO this ["this" means the example given in the preceding paragraph, numbered 1?] is a hypnotic trance brought about by monotonous prayers for a prolonged period.
2. Another example: at many Mexican religious celebrations, people let themselves be crucified. They feel no pain, and their wounds close up quickly after the ceremony. They were in a trance, clearly.
Stigmata [dvs, the example in the preceding paragraph, numbered 2?] - enduced by a holy trance.
3. The list goes on.
I'd put that more down to the bassline for raves. Plus, brainwave stuff works on having different frequencies in each ear.makidas wrote:Speaking of raves, I've noticed a lot of trance music artists inadvertantely (maybe) give there tunes a hypnotic BWGen like sound.
MikeWulf wrote:brainwave stuff works on having different frequencies in each ear.
johnbohnrevenge wrote:Seriously, this is getting out of hand... I'm wondering if this should be moved to the Religion forum.
johnbohnrevenge wrote:Seriously, this is getting out of hand... I'm wondering if this should be moved to the Religion forum.
sandy82 wrote:One has admitted indirectly that he doesn't have the permission and/or expertise to disconnect a PM link when Member A is using PMs to harass Member B. He made the admission in the context of trying to help out a vexed, long-time member. If either or both of the newer moderators have the authority to move threads and choose not to do so, I can hardly blame them: who would thank them for doing so? Virtually nobody. Who would complain? At least somebody. Who needs the grief, as a volunteer.
davelowe1977 wrote:sandy82 wrote:One has admitted indirectly that he doesn't have the permission and/or expertise to disconnect a PM link when Member A is using PMs to harass Member B. He made the admission in the context of trying to help out a vexed, long-time member. If either or both of the newer moderators have the authority to move threads and choose not to do so, I can hardly blame them: who would thank them for doing so? Virtually nobody. Who would complain? At least somebody. Who needs the grief, as a volunteer.
As a moderator of Diapers/Incontinence, I can report that the only extra privileges I have are to edit or delete posts in that specific forum. I cannot move threads, or influence PMs. I Hope that clarifies a little.
Incidentally, that forum has been quiet recently, and nothing controversial has happened on my watch, so besides reading every post, I've had little to do!
deathjdstn wrote:is the member still bothering u?
If u wish for that member to leave u alone or u think he or she is a minor let me know and i can pass it on to EMG for u to get it checked out
other than that my best advice is to just no reply to him then he will get tired and will move on but if he is harrsing u please let us know or EMG
thanks
hope this helps
Well that has nothing to do with what the brainwave beats are doing, it's just a trigger (or anchor).makidas wrote:MikeWulf wrote:brainwave stuff works on having different frequencies in each ear.
Not necessarily, although it is helpful. Brainwave syncs work pretty well without headphones, that is after you have been trained (in a sence) to go under with the stuff, lol.
MikeWulf wrote:Well that has nothing to do with what the brainwave beats are doing, it's just a trigger (or anchor).
What the _FUCK_ are you talking about? First, tell me where else I was wrong. Second, give me a bloody good explanation why I am wrong here.makidas wrote:MikeWulf wrote:Well that has nothing to do with what the brainwave beats are doing, it's just a trigger (or anchor).
I don't know how to say this politely but, once again, you do not know what you're talking about.
MikeWulf wrote:What the _FUCK_ are you talking about? First, tell me where else I was wrong. Second, give me a bloody good explanation why I am wrong here.makidas wrote:MikeWulf wrote:Well that has nothing to do with what the brainwave beats are doing, it's just a trigger (or anchor).
I don't know how to say this politely but, once again, you do not know what you're talking about.
davelowe1977 wrote:Tolerence, gentlemen, please!
On the point of the brainwave files, I side with mikewulf. They work by spacially encoding the sound so that it appears to 'rotate' around the head at a certain frequency. The frequency is chosen to match the results of medical studies that have determined that the brain 'works' at differing frequencies depending on mood and state of wakefulness. As an example they may range from high alpha (fast) to deep theta (slow), depending on whether you are highly awake and thinking fast, to deeply asleep. The actual frequency that is considered best suited to helping hypnosis is open to some interpretation, but this is outside the scope of this post. In any case, when presented with a persistant external frequency, the brain eventually synchronises to it.
Mikewulf is correct on two points. Firstly, they will only work with headphones because each ear must only hear the correct channel - left or right - in order to have the desired effect. With speakers there will be too much 'overspill' from one ear to the other - the brain will concentrate on the delay between ears relating to the difference in distance from each ear to each speaker and not on the intended spacial effect.
Secondly, if you have success with the brainwave files, you will subconciously attach the files to the success, much like an hynotic anchor or trigger (akin to cognative behavioural therapy techniques).
If anyone disagrees with what I have written, please respond politely! I fail to see the benefit in turning a disagreement into a slanging match.
MikeWulf wrote:He was wrong. I corrected him. He got shitty and said I was wrong (yet again?). I swore as an exaggeration of my anger. You focused on one word and went on with a rant about some other guy. Nice...
When I know I am right, and someone says I am wrong, it pisses me off...Big deal.
thephantom wrote:Makidas: you really should do some research before you say shit again! And stop to lie!
Have you ever thought I might be making my arguments on facts? HUH? Jesus, man.makidas wrote:I'm not going to argue over something so petty. That's an assumption, assumption's are like assholes, everyone seems to have one. The problem with assumptions is that they are usually incorrect. (I think I may have said that once before.)
Thanks man. That was the sort of response I was hoping for.makidas wrote:I apologize, but I rare to never see any research as the end all. We understand so much, yet so little about how the brain works, how can you honestly say that your findings are based on fact. Not to mention how little research is available on Brainwave Syncs. It is all trial and error at this point. Note, I mean absolutely no disrepect.
MikeWulf wrote: Have you ever thought I might be making my arguments on facts? HUH? Jesus, man.
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