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fred_now wrote:sandy82, so you agree with me that there is no God, and no heaven nor hell? I enjoyed reading your post. Have you ever heard of neo-tech. It's a concept included in a one hundred dollar book I bought a few years back. One of the ideas matched with what you said in your post. The one about developing the conscious mind. The book states that moving into a conscious self was the first step we as humans have taken. There is said to be another step, which brings us to "neo-thinking." There is many complicated details to this whole neo-tech concept. There is a website which further explains the details at http://www.neo-tech.com/index.php
Mallic wrote:I love these threads, but my one on IMDB got so very, very, very flamed, by people who would always talk about how their Philosophy major put then above lesser mortals, but continually dodged any questions about their beliefs.
babytroll wrote:When you die, your existance ends except in the memories of others.
sandy82 wrote:babytroll wrote:When you die, your existance ends except in the memories of others.
Interesting idea, babytroll, and I know what you mean. I am guessing that you would include in your viewpoint (as aids to memory) such items as endless newsreel footage of FDR, his wife's dental records, and George Washington's picture on the dollar bill.
BobbyS wrote:Dragging the subject down to its roots, I'd have to say I would have to say I would be an atheist it wasn't for the question of why the universe exists and why humans seem to have the world handed to them on a plate - a hospitable (though rapidly declining) environment, a selection of both meat and vegetables for us omnivores to eat, a species that can be readily domesticated, plants to clean up after us and raw minerals that do so many different things for us - I still can't get my head around how intricate and complicated a computer must be as a machine that uses fuel to run and plastic and metal to operate.
When you think of how easily humans have developed it does make you wonder if someone or something organised it for us. (Of course I believe in evolution from micro organisms btw - I'm not a hippy.)
Also, really, why ARE we here? I'd say to reproduce - when we're at our strongest we're also at our most sexually potent. However, that seems pointless - that's no ultimate goal, so religion says 'to serve God'.
Whatever you think of that premise, at least it answers the question.
Of course one could then ask 'What's the point of God's existence?' To which I'm stumped.
JKnaugh13 wrote:My only comment to those who do not believe in God is, to sit back and seriously think about a universe without a God and without an afterlife. Think about a time when you fell asleep and when you woke up it seemed like only a moment had passed. Death is often referred to as "dreamless sleep". Imagine having a dreamless sleep for eternity. If you really think about it like that it should make you frightened. In fact when I had my doubts about the existence of God I had that exact line of thought. In a split second my heart rate jumped to about 180 beats a minute and I felt alone in world. I'm not trying to scare the wrath of God into anyone, just sharing my own personal thought. For me, a universe without the existence of God is too scary a place to imagine.
missypuss wrote:In respect to humans who believe in intelligent design..
And speaking as one who( perhaps as Sandy stated...) wasnt intelligently designed ...........:twisted:maybe....
Bobby ......
Whats wrong with hippies??????????? :wink:
missypuss wrote:Personally/ Ive just discovered the name of God..
Well the name of my God anyhow.. :twisted:
missypuss wrote:Sandy~ as always your devotion to your research on whichever topic is being debated is to be applauded..
You always have a myriad of facts and figures at your fingertips, ready to respond to the various tangeants and paths a subject digresses from..
In this case, and at this tangeant, I Missypuss........
was taking the rise out of myself......
Ergo "Intelligent design"....... :P
And I quite like hippies......!!!!!!!
And the name of my god is at the moment Chymos.....!! :wink: xx
goldragon_70 wrote:I believe that god is god, and not just a half. He/she is all things: Devil, Jesus, you, me, the rock next door, the earth, ETC. In other words, we are a construct of god made from him/her, and so is everything in the physical and spiritual. As for death; I believe in reincarnaton, to were ever we chose to go (including other planits), so long as we experience for god, or in other words, we are the ones that can see his creation with new eyes, and not all knowing ones. From that we learn pain, pleasure, loss, and love when we thought there was none. Well there is much more to it then this, but I don’t want to bore ya’ll.
davelowe1977 wrote:Sometimes I despair. When are we collectively going to move on from this kind of thing? Why is there a need for a supreme being? Can someone put forward some evidence that would stand up in court to support any of these beliefs being true? As a commited aetheist all this mumbo-jumbo gets me really wound up. So I will stop before I post something offensive.
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