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Postby xdude » March 1st, 2014, 7:52 pm

has anyone done his training?
claims training to be the perfect Robotic slave

found on gay hypnosis on yahoo group
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Master Him - original?

Postby boy_arthur_tx » March 2nd, 2014, 8:17 am

To the best of my knowledge the Original Master Him was a most effective slave trainer. Training slaves for their Masters.

I believe he retired from active public service about a dozen years ago.
Shortly after that there was a New Master Him. ????

The original had a full beard, I believe.
I have a copy of one of his Grock scripts.
Wish I could find it.

Please let us know where you are finding his files.
I would be very interested in checking this out.

Some would tell you the Grock scripts are more brain washing than hypnosis but....
Very respectfully,
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 15th, 2017, 9:55 am

To quote boy_arthur_tx, "To the best of my knowledge the Original Master Him was a most effective slave trainer. Training slaves for their Masters.
I believe he retired from active public service about a dozen years ago.
Shortly after that there was a New Master Him. ????
The original had a full beard, I believe."

I AM the ORIGINAL Master Him. I'm new on here, but not new to slave training. (over 64 years experience as a hypnotist and over 35 years as a slave "trainer"). And I still have my full (though much whiter) beard.

I did take a break for a few years, but have been active again for the past ten years.

I usually pick the guys I choose to train by locating them online myself and then sending them a private message offering my training, or I am contacted by "non-hypno" masters that have a slave they feel could be improved by my training.

I do not OWN or USE the slaves I train. (Think of me like you would a Martial Arts master.)

My training is done only via daily e-mail hypnotic training sessions that take 15 to 20 minutes to complete. The training takes approximately 2 or 3 months depending on the trainee; however, I do keep training beyond that point until the trainee or his master feel all they need has been accomplished. It should be noted that I do NOT supply masters for slaves that do not have one. And to repeat, I am ONLY a "training" master for those I train.

I do NOT train by using one-on-one, in-person sessions, nor by using phone, chat, webcam, MP3's, IM or Skype. I ONLY use e-mail for its convenience. (And it produces just as good ,if not BETTER, results as any other method.)

I limit my training to former trainees that want additional training or feel that some reinforcing is desired; or guys (18 to 30) who have a skinny to athletic build and are naturally submissive and obedient, with or without a master, and feel the NEED to become a "REAL" slave; willingly giving up total and absolute control over their mind and body and their total being to their master or future master; and being conditioned/brainwashed into being a robotically controlled slave "it" for that master.

All other candidates MUST first have an "active" master they are training for to improve their service to that master. I will ONLY knowingly train such candidates AFTER I receive a request or permission from said master FIRST.

NO other exceptions will be made, UNLESS "I" contact the person personally "FIRST". This is due, primarily, to a limit the number of trainees at anyone moment due to the amount of available time I have to devote to this free service. (This is NOT my main hobby in my retirement.) Even with these restrictions, I still sometimes get swamped with the number of trainees seeking my services.

This notice is to explain and identify who I am and not a solicitation for trainees, (unless I contact you).
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Re: themasterhim

Postby xdude » February 22nd, 2018, 4:30 pm

a lot of masturbating more than master training a slave from what I read
you start with a submisive , have you really done anything
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » February 22nd, 2018, 6:59 pm

Naturally only a fool would keep doing something for 35+ years if he wasn't having a lot of success.

Below, read some of the recent comments by a few of the guys in training now:
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(1) A report coming directly from the slave's subconscious:

hello Master,

Richards Brain here,

It has been a while since we have talked Master. i have grown stronger but wanted you to know i am still your slave things are going well i have compete control over him.

He read a story about a demon that took control over someone and raped him. I changed my persona to match that so when I need to turn him on or punish him i show myself as this demon. he has alot of respect for me. when I need to correct him i use the demon voice to let him know he getting out of line. We had a rough session when I 1st created the demon so i could reenforce my control over him. he fought it wanting the old brain but I told him this is who he has now and i was in control over him watching him and controlling him for you Master.

love your slave brain

(2) from a second trainee (conscious personality)

Master. I have been sick with the flu but have now completed the session. Although I was sick I can still feel your cock in my mouth and pussy everynight and it was so wonderful. It's one of the best feeling in the world. I also no longer wear underwear. It was hard to adjust too at first but it is starting to feel more natural. I stay hard throughout the day. I dream about serving you in person and getting a chance to serve you is the best thing that I could have happen. Thank you Master.

(3) from a third trainee (conscious personality)

Slave is so happy to read master's words. Slave is so happy to cum to them and feel so good and relaxed <3 slave loves being fucked and tocuhed by master, its just all endless pleasure that slave never wants to end <3

(4) from a fourth trainee (conscious personaily)

Master, you leave me so turned on and horny all day (and night) long. I dreamed of the most incredible submission to you, giving you all of me to use and provide pleasure to you. The feel of you in my throat and deep in my pussy had me so hard when I woke up. Then today I’ve been thinking dirty thoughts all day long. Your words tonight left me with your taste in my mouth and feeling so relaxed afterward but it was almost like my dream how I felt afterwards. Thank you Sir and I look forward to more. slave

(5) from the (conscious personality) of number 1 above

Oh yes the trigger is so good that I use it when ever i get the chance it helps me deal with the horniness between sessions it helps but then it makes things worse but i like that feeling.

i can not wait to meet you in person Master i so much want that more than you know Master.

i do my best to make you proud of me SIR.

i am still serving my local Master things have gotten very good there Master. I watch over his house for him when he is gone. he uses me really hard but i enjoy our sessions he is more of a saidest master when he flogs and beats me his cock gets harder i call it "Feeding the Cock" and his cock is very hungry. he does not beat me till i am bursed anymore but does give me a good working over. has been making me make my nipples bigger so he can torture them while i am sucking his cock. i get turned on when he is turned on and he is feeding me his cum more an more. Says I am the best slave / cocksucker he has ever owned.

(6) from yet another trainee (conscious personality)

Hello master,
It started and took control as soon as I had a chance. I started the session and was instantly taken under until I witnessed the greatest orgasm of my life. I love it so much I couldn't imagine life without you and your control.
Thank you so much for everything master.
I love you,
Slave

Then he sent this report

Hello master,
I couldn't help but do the next one as soon as I was finished with the last.
I came to your words was instantly put to sleep and I came back out to witness the build up and orgasm and I feel so amazing right now.
Thank you so much master.
Love,
Slave

(7) from another trainee (conscious personality)

Master Brian took over the body and jerked off. This slave feels helpless and obedient.

(8) another report but this time from (Brian) the subconscious of the #4 trainee above

I have read your new instructions and understand. He will obey and enjoy the new instructions.

(9) from another trainee (conscious personality)

Thank you master him for today’s session. I enjoyed obeying your command

and from his Brian (subconscious)

Hello master, I made him have sweet dreams of serving you again. In leather in a dungeon. He woke up rock hard

(10) This last report is from the subconscious of a straight guy who bet I couldn't turn him into a gay slave. I warned him and warned him but he kept insisting that he was willing if I could make him gay.

thank you for removing all sexual contact with women. for it.

thank you for stopping it from having girlfriends and be physically unable to be erect with a woman.

Af01 complete. gay slave sessioned.

love brian


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Each trainee I train, I name their subconscious alter-ego Brian, that way I no longer forget the name of each subconscious like I did when I allowed them to name themselves.

The above report are from current trainees at varying levels of training. I am not making their identity known because I respect their privacy. Hopefully, you see from the above that I haven't wasted my 35 years of offering slave training. All of the above have a built-in alter-ego called Brian who serve me as my perfect slave and totally controls the mind and body of the conscious personality, rendering them totally enslaved, just as they requested.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby EMG » February 22nd, 2018, 7:21 pm

Welcome aboard, good to see someone that's been at it longer than I have :)
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » February 25th, 2018, 1:18 am

The following that happened today, may prove useful for anyone interested in using e-mail to do their text hypnosis:
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(1) I received this report from one of my trainees today:

Master, work has been crazy this week. I’ve been thinking of you and your words and thoughts of sucking your cock and the incredible feeling of your cock making my pussy feel so good. I woke up last night and couldn’t go back to sleep so I pulled up one of my favorite porn videos and masterbated for a while but couldn’t cum or even get very hard. I tried a couple of other videos but that didn’t help so I read your words and you got me hard and made me cum so good.

Todays session felt good as well. Your cum always tastes so good and I felt so relaxed afterwards.

looking forward to more thoughts of feeling your love tonight.

slave

Note: I should explain that when the trainee gets to my advanced level, he is conditioned that each night when he goes to bed to go to sleep, he feels my cock in his mouth and sucks on it like a little baby sucks on its bottle to go to sleep, while at the same time he feels my cock slowly and gently fucking his hole(slave pussy) lovingly as he falls into a deep and restful night sleep. The instructions to the subconscious are to make those feeling seem real to him as they occur. (As if my cock were actually there with all the associated feelings)

(2) I responded with the following, directed only to his subconscious:

To Brian: Seal him away now as you read my words and make them a deep and strong part of you. Remember he is ONLY to be able to get hard and to cum ONLY when I or my words order him to do so or when he is doing one of my sessions and only then when I order him to cum for me. Nothing and no one else but me and my words will ever be able to make him sexually aroused or hard. No type of porn can ever make him hard or arouse him sexually ever again. Only I and my sessions can ever arouse him. If he or anyone else tries to do anything to make him hard or sexually aroused, his cock will remain totally soft and he will instantly lose all sexual interest in trying to be aroused by anything or any one else other than doing one of my sessions now, always and forevermore. After you have made all the needed adjustments so these orders will remain strong and firmly fixed in his sexuality from now on, then send me a message telling me you understand and have made the needed adjustments. Then and only then delete this message and your reply message to me and then slowly reawaken him with no memory of what I have ordered you to do for me. Making him rock hard and craving to repeat my last session again. Have him report to me after he does it.
Love
Master

(Note I should point out that although this set of suggestions were instilled in him, they or similar ones are NOT instilled in all my trainees but many times similar ones are given to slaves of other masters whom I am training specifically for that master to help restrict the slave's sexuality only to its master and to give that master full and total control over his slave's sexuality.)


(3) Later I received this report from his subconscious Brian:

Master, I understand your instructions and will make sure he takes no interest in sex or can get hard for anyone but at your instruction. He will repeat your session now and report to you.

(4) Still a little later I received this report from the trainee himself:

Master, I’ve been thinking about your words and sex all day. I realized I was getting hard at the store today walking around. I don’t think anyone saw me though. I can’t wait to read your new words but really wanted to cum to this lesson first. I miss it now if I don’t get the taste of cum each day. Your slave.
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Once the trainee has reached the advanced level and I have created the alter-ego Brian (his subconscious' name) I am then able to give the subconscious any commands I desire independently and separately from his conscious personality.

Once excellent rapport has been established with the subconscious, trance is not needed. Simple e-mail instructions are all that needs to be used.

Hopefully, this and the prior message will help show the power and effectiveness of hypnosis using only e-mail texting.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby nicord » February 26th, 2018, 7:27 pm

I am one of themasterhim's trained slaves.

I want to let others know how effective his e-mail training is and how it perfects your submissiveness and obedience and how good it makes you feel as it does so.

I wanted to be a better slave for my master and showed him a sample of themasterhim's training and asked if I could go though it. He said yes and I was able to contact themasterhim.

I did not fit into themasterhim's age range but, luckly, since I already have a Master that wanted me to go through his training, themasterhim agreed to train me. Like he freely has been doing for other masters who request it for over the past 35 years.

I was accepted into themasterhim's slave training 3 years ago.

When I started it and received the 1st session and did it, I really did not think it was going to work there was no trance that I could "feel" but I enjoyed the jacking off and continued to do it.

By the time I completed my basic training, I was constantly horny and just wanted to get more of themasterhim's words and orgasms. I then started on the advanced training and my world changed.

I did fight it for a bit, as I was afraid of the control I was giving up, but I was soon shown that fighting and resisting the words was no longer an option so I had no choice but to accept it and when I did the pleasure was increased so much that I would gladly give control over just to keep getting the pleasure.

I have also been made so much better, given abilities that I did not even think were possible.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask, I have been given permsion to discuss them.

Also I am allowed to train any new trainees that do not fit into themasterhims restrictions to help free him up to train those that do.

Themasterhim has trained me fully now and i am under his guidance to accept trainees who want to be trained to become perfect hypnotically controlled slaves.

A new way of Life you will absolutely love living.

You can message me if you are interested and I can send you a sample session to try and if you liked it, we can go from there if you decide you want to.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin » April 8th, 2018, 10:35 am

For me, the ideal training would take this kind of effectiveness but orientated a bit differently: I'm not one looking for being a slave in the traditional way, even just being a toilet. Tbf, I recall asking for help with my own work originally because of the unusual nature, the waste consumption stuff. I don't think, on balance, it is doable :P.

I have seen a preview of themasterhim's work, and without giving away confidences, I believe a determined conscientious slave to be would deeply benefit from it.

As for me, from time to time, the aspect of me that wants to be far more deeply trained in the sewage disposal department will probably keep making files and looking. Much to the consternation of the other parts.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby put-me-under1 » May 20th, 2018, 6:02 pm

This sounds to good to be true. I would love to try this if it was true, even though I'm not gay the total control aspect would be amazing if it works.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » August 26th, 2019, 4:39 pm

81...rage against that night brother!
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Re: themasterhim

Postby outkast1728 » August 26th, 2019, 11:53 pm

I'd love to be personally trained by you SIR, but would you be willing to use methods other than email if provided ample opportunity?
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 27th, 2019, 1:11 am

but would you be willing to use methods other than email if provided ample opportunity?


Without knowing what the "other methods" are or what "ample opportunities" are, I can not answer.

It should also be noted that normally, I train by "invitation only", so as to be better able to control how much daily time is going to be spent by me, since this is not my main function or desire in Life and what I do is done free of charge to the subject. Thus I am better able to keep things conveniently manageable for me.

As to whether or not I would be willing to make an exception (from invitation only) and work with a previously uninvited subject would require knowing more about said subject and what their desired outcomes are, before I would even be able to decide if I would be willing to work with that person in that given situation; (assuming I even have an available open space for a new subject, at that specific time period). I limit the number of people I work with at the same time.

However, it also should be noted that I use e-mail hypnosis because:

(1) Of its convenience of not have to be online together at the same time, thus enabling very convenient sessions for both parties involved; especially where there is a major time difference between the two parties.
(2) All my initial hypnotic sessions have been prewritten and tested over the years for effectiveness, so I don't have to "keep reinventing the wheel" each time I want to work with a new subject.
(3) It allows the subject the safety factor of being able to know in advance or after the session (and have a permanent word-for-word record of) exactly what his mind is/or was subjected to during the session, (so he doesn't need to fear that there will be any "surprises" or "undesired suggestions" given).
(4) Over the last 30+ years, that method has proven to be highly effective for those willing to cooperate be doing the sessions "as directed" at least once a day, daily.
(5) It enables me to work with dozens of different subjects, at different places in their personal level of training, during the same period of time, world-wide; which using a one-on-one only, or "chat room" type method would not function nearly as well with many different people in the same period of time.
(6) That method enables me to have far more access to a given subject's mind, in a given time period, than other methods normally do, because the subject is able to repeat that day's session more times than once a day, (without me having to be involved), thus increasing the effectiveness and probable success of the suggestions contained in the given session.
(7) Since I use non-"trance" hypnosis ("active conscious hypnosis", at least initially), it aids in the success of that method.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » August 27th, 2019, 3:10 pm

IIRC from the yahoo days , you had some standard questionnaires that you had potential slaves fill out before considering to train them .
you could post them here under your account to save time
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 27th, 2019, 8:36 pm

joecomp2000 wrote:you could post them here under your account to save time


As I said, I usually only train guys by "invitation only". If I posted my questionnaire on here, there is a somewhat good probability that many more applicants would fill it out and send it to me either when (1) they are not the type of candidate I choose to train or (2) at that time, I may already be at my maximum allowable number of trainees I am willing to work with and then have to take the time and trouble of asking those I might be interested in working with to re-make their request to be trained again later, when an opening might have occurred.

Like, now, at the present time, (08/27/19), when I am currently at my maximum number of allowed trainees, until some complete or stop their training.

And yes, some guys do "stop" their training before its completion, because (1) when they signed up they desired to work with a "master" who would afford them with more "individualize" and "constant" attention and interaction than what I provide and so lost interest in continuing the training; or (2) they mistakenly don't feel things are working for them, and so give up before they actually see results that show otherwise, (many times, way too soon for any real changes to seemingly be occurring at their level of awareness). I train the "subconscious" not the "conscious" level.

Yes, I am well aware that I could just keep a list of interested guys and work from it in that (1st) situation and I could give out another list of specifications for what I specifically look for and do not look for in a new, acceptable candidate, but both of those things would involve a greater degree of additional work on my part than I am willing to provide for free, in addition to everything else I already am providing to those with whom I am currently training.

I am not trying to make what I do even more work than it already is. The way I have it now, provides me with as many candidates as I need for the amount of time and effort I desire to dedicate to this endeavor. Just as medical doctors put a "cap" on the number of patients they are willing to work with at any given time and also restrict those they do work with to only the type of patients they feel qualified to work with or desire to help in areas of their specialty(/ies). The same is true in my situation.

Your suggestion would be a very good one, if I were interested in searching this site for new recruits. However, this site does not usually provide sufficient individual personal information in the profiles of its members that would enable me to pick and choose on here new recruits when I am seeking them out.

This is a site primarily dedicated to "audio" and "audio/video" hypnotic induction and session files. Neither of which I use, nor choose to use in my methods. So, I do not "hunt" on here for new recruits.

The only reason I am here is because one of my trainees, who is/was a member of this site also, saw the original question for this topic and informed me that there was someone on here that was seeking information about my continuing internet presence elsewhere. So I joined with the intent of answering that request for information about me.

There are 4 other sites (which do NOT compete with this site for members or services provided); 2 of which are "free" sites, "collarspace.com" and "hypnosisforguys.com"; and two are relatively inexpensive "free/pay" sites, "recon.com" and "silverdaddies.com", where I do "hunt" because of the quantity and quality of profile information they provided on each of their members and the quality of the search engine on three of those sites, in aiding me in finding new recruits with whom I am interested in offering my serves, in case they have an interest in being trained by me.

My profile, on those sites, does specify what services and benefits I offer and the type of recruit I am seeking and from which I make my invitations to guys on those sites with whom I desire to make an offer, based on their profile info.

The over whelming majority of persons I contact do NOT respond back, because what I am offering to them, does not, in their opinion, fulfill what they are seeking and THAT is fine with me. I am NOT out to train "everyone" interested in having a master/slave relationship with someone. Even with all the large number of rejections to my offers, I still end up with more than enough new recruits to fulfill my desired quota.

My questionnaire is not posted on any of those either, for the same reasons why it is not posted here. However, in the forum section of "hypnosisforguys.com" my sample session IS posted there, and is freely available for anyone who desires to try it. Though you will need to look at several pages of forum listings before you will find where it is now listed and available. (As new forum topics are posted, it gets moved farther and farther back, page-wise, in the listings.)

I do not mean to offend anyone with this response, However, I AM OLD (81) and very "set in my ways" at this point in my life. So, I am very sorry, if how I do things offends anyone specifically. (Yet another reason why I choose to trained based on "by invitation only".)

I would suggest, that anyone on here that does not belong to any of those 4 sites, and who thinks he (I only work with men) might be interested in what I do and how I do it; and if he does personally fulfill the conditions I specify on those sites for the type of candidates I seek, and who, after meeting those conditions, wants to possibly be considered for inclusion in my program, then you might want to seek me out on one of those 4 sites.

To the owners of this great site, who are so wonderfully filling a specific need for guys who seek "being hypnotized" or "doing the hypnotizing" via "audio" and "audio/video" file hypnosis: (1) I want to thank you for making this wonderful site available and for the enormous amount of time and effort you so kindly provide in doing so; (2) none of the sites I have listed herein will compete with your site for members nor decrease the number of new members or the activities of this wonderful site's current membership in any way.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 27th, 2019, 9:18 pm

To all of you who are making and providing the hypnotic files on here. If you wish to increase the number of people who will make use of your materials, I suggest that you not be "passive" in your attempts to get additional users.

Don't just make your files, and then only describe them on here and hope someone on here will read your description and make use of your work. Though that will definitely work to some degree. Instead I suggest that you take the same "active" "hunting/offering" method I use for my materials to GREATLY increase the number of your users. What I have been doing for the past several years has worked wonderfully for me and my efforts.

I don't suggest that you copy your detailed advertisements on other sites; and thus increase the amount of work needed to try to obtain new users, but rather use the sites I referred you to, in my last post above, that I "hunt" on and seek out people on those sites, based on their profile information, whom you think might be interested in your files and make an offer to them to seek out your materials on this site, with detailed directions on how to find your files here. Including a description of what you are offering and why you think it may be of value to them. Then "cut and paste" your offer in messages YOU send out to those you think might want to become new users of your materials.

An "active" approach obtains far more new users than a "passive" approach. Its a lot more work, but its results are worth it, at least to me.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » August 28th, 2019, 9:14 am

it is great to hear of a person of advanced years still contributing to society and living a fulfilling life.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 28th, 2019, 3:57 pm

joecomp2000 wrote:it is great to hear of a person of advanced years still contributing to society and living a fulfilling life.


Thanks you Sir for your most kind words.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby slavefortraining » September 11th, 2019, 4:23 pm

Hi MasterHim
can I ask, are you still taking subjects?
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » September 12th, 2019, 7:31 am

@slavefortraining

I think we are already in contact now. If not seek me out on one of those other sites.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » December 11th, 2019, 1:35 am

Just curious... do you (masterhim) recommend text files I can find? Does Nicord train others this way? I don't really want to go all the way, just curious.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 11th, 2019, 3:11 am

activecanada wrote:Just curious... do you (masterhim) recommend text files I can find? Does Nicord train others this way? I don't really want to go all the way, just curious.


Regretfully, the only text files I am familiar with are those I have written.

As for Master Nicord, yes he uses his copies of my files. He has been trained with them and uses them on those he trains.

If you don't want to go all the way, then the Basic Level Sessions # 1 to 39 will serve you well. Just stop before going into the advanced sessions starting with session A01.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » December 12th, 2019, 5:19 pm

nicord wrote:I am one of themasterhim's trained slaves.

I want to let others know how effective his e-mail training is and how it perfects your submissiveness and obedience and how good it makes you feel as it does so.

When I started it and received the 1st session and did it, I really did not think it was going to work there was no trance that I could "feel" but I enjoyed the jacking off and continued to do it.

By the time I completed my basic training, I was constantly horny and just wanted to get more of themasterhim's words and orgasms. I then started on the advanced training and my world changed.

I did fight it for a bit, as I was afraid of the control I was giving up, but I was soon shown that fighting and resisting the words was no longer an option so I had no choice but to accept it and when I did the pleasure was increased so much that I would gladly give control over just to keep getting the pleasure.

I have also been made so much better, given abilities that I did not even think were possible.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask, I have been given permsion to discuss them.

Also I am allowed to train any new trainees that do not fit into themasterhims restrictions to help free him up to train those that do.

Themasterhim has trained me fully now and i am under his guidance to accept trainees who want to be trained to become perfect hypnotically controlled slaves.

A new way of Life you will absolutely love living.

You can message me if you are interested and I can send you a sample session to try and if you liked it, we can go from there if you decide you want to.


So, this is interesting. You say that you have abilities, and enjoy pleasure, but I wonder if you can say more, as I always slightly doubt the word of someone who is heavily hypnotized, as I wonder if hypnosis has altered their objectivity.

Also, is there a way to benefit from these files without progressing to the advanced files, or are they like a hook, and you want to continue at some point?

Also, for me, slavery is just a fantasy so I can't benefit from the fiiles at all?

Plus, where can I find more of those erotic comments from the Brians subverting the willpower of the trainees?
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 13th, 2019, 7:24 pm

"activecanada"
"So, this is interesting. You say that you have abilities, and enjoy pleasure, but I wonder if you can say more, as I always slightly doubt the word of someone who is heavily hypnotized, as I wonder if hypnosis has altered their objectivity."

You addressed this comment to me, but since it was written by Nicord, it really should be addressed to him to respond to it.

"Also, is there a way to benefit from these files without progressing to the advanced files, or are they like a hook, and you want to continue at some point?"

Yes and No.
Yes, there are benefits from them:
1) enhanced submissiveness.
2) overcoming the automatic sexual turn-off for males after they cum.
3) enhance ability to go under hypnosis for other hypnotists
4) increased horniness
No:
1) the abilities referred to by Nicord are the result of conditioning in the advanced level sessions.
2) the Brians referred to are alter-egos created only in the advanced sessions.

As for the "hook":

The alter-ego, Brian, is created only in the advanced sessions and as long as you stop before Brian is created, then you can stop anytime you decide to do so. However, though the subconscious, without its Brian, will not be able to prevent you from stopping, it may well try to encourage you to want to continue. But, you will still have your normal level of "free-will and self-control", so if you exert it you can stop things from getting to the point where Brian is created and then prevents you from being able to stop things from going all the way.

On the other hand, if you happen to be someone who has been hypnotized repeatedly over time, you may already have an unnamed alter-ego created. If so, it may become a "Brian" before the advanced sessions normally create one. So, if that applies to you, you may well want to not become involved with this training and seek out another hypnotist to work with you and thus prevent that from happening.

There is another website which specializes in erotic hypnosis, (that does not conflict with this site) called hypnosisforguys.com, where you might find such a hypnotist to work with you either in person or online. (Again, do not let them use "text" hypnosis on you as it may cause what you are trying to prevent.)


"Also, for me, slavery is just a fantasy so I can't benefit from the fiiles at all?"

If all you want is the benefits referred to above in the Basic Level sessions, then yes you can benefit from them only.

"Plus, where can I find more of those erotic comments from the Brians subverting the willpower of the trainees?"

Since my training (and hopefully Master Nicord's as well) is done in the strictest of confidence, respecting the privacy of the trainee, you would have to get them from other trainees themselves. Unless they happen to read this post, I doubt that will happen. Sorry.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » December 14th, 2019, 7:54 pm

themasterhim wrote:
On the other hand, if you happen to be someone who has been hypnotized repeatedly over time, you may already have an unnamed alter-ego created. If so, it may become a "Brian" before the advanced sessions normally create one. So, if that applies to you, you may well want to not become involved with this training and seek out another hypnotist to work with you and thus prevent that from happening.

I have felt that might almost be happening, so I feel I should exercise caution, so I might not read those files. I have read a long text file before in trance.

There is another website which specializes in erotic hypnosis, (that does not conflict with this site) called hypnosisforguys.com, where you might find such a hypnotist to work with you either in person or online. (Again, do not let them use "text" hypnosis on you as it may cause what you are trying to prevent.) [/color]


Since my training (and hopefully Master Nicord's as well) is done in the strictest of confidence, respecting the privacy of the trainee, you would have to get them from other trainees themselves. Unless they happen to read this post, I doubt that will happen. Sorry.


That's too bad that no one's published those yet. Since this method requires the making of a permanent subconscious alter, the text files can't be just tried for a couple of weeks or months?
Also, text files create alters more easily?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but it's OK if Master Nicord wants to answer instead, although you answer technical questions so well.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 16th, 2019, 12:25 am

activecanada wrote:Since this method requires the making of a permanent subconscious alter, the text files can't be just tried for a couple of weeks or months?
Also, text files create alters more easily?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but it's OK if Master Nicord wants to answer instead, although you answer technical questions so well.


My text files CAN be tried for a week or two or even a month or more, as long as you do not go into the Advanced sessions. My advanced sessions start with session A01 and come after Basic session 39. The alter-ego is not "created" until during the advanced sessions. The Basic Level session can be used and reused as often as you desire without fear of them becoming permanently enslaving. (see caution below)

As to whether text files more easily create alter-egos? It is not that alter-egos are easier to create with text files, but rather text files when used "daily", instead of an occasional personal one-on-one hypnotic session, can make creating an alter-ego easier because of the more frequent sessioning with those text sessions.

If a hypnotist gets his/her subject to "read" or "listen" or "watch" his sessions on a "frequent" basis, (most often without that hypnotist even being online at the same time) it is relatively easy for that hypnotist to create an alter-ego that can learn to take over control of and keep control of the conscious personality and thus enslave that subject whether it is desired or not.

Again, I must CAUTION persons who have been hypnotized OFTEN, it is possible that an unnamed alter-ego has already been created in those subjects and therefore, it is better to be safe than sorry and not use my or any other hypnotist's text sessions, in an effort to help decrease the possible enslavement that might otherwise occur by using them; if such an enslavement is not desired consciously.

Also, my text files have been around for over 30 years, so there are several hypnotists who have obtained copies of many, if not all, of them and might be using them as if those files were their own. That is another reason why you should not use text files, especially on a daily basis, if you do NOT desire to be enslaved. Also note, if someone IS using my files, he/she may have altered them and I can not guarantee how safe you may be if someone other than myself uses them on you. (Master Nicord, among a few others are an exception.)

It should also be noted that permanent enslavement does not have to be 24/7. Things can still be set up where a "triggered slave mode" is instilled and that person remains "normal" unless his "slave mode trigger" is activated.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin2 » December 18th, 2019, 12:39 am

I find myself insanely fascinated by this discussion as I've used my own punishment and trigger files, most lunchtimes for a few years now.

And have had some experience in compulsions as a result, which, as its erotic intense punishment, what I wanted.

Mine is a particularly twisted set of desires but I would like to be properly enslaved to them during any appropriate times (basically when alone and in private) so that I either obey the few online guys i have who enjoy the idea or by default have to go through with punishments whether I would wish to or not. Right now, I can stop myself at all times, whereas I feel what would be correct is that I should be unable to stop the treatment/punishment when alone and in private.

Is there a variation of your work that would work for me?
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 18th, 2019, 5:16 am

To: "kzarin2"] "I find myself insanely fascinated by this discussion as I've used my own punishment and trigger files, most lunchtimes for a few years now. ... Is there a variation of your work that would work for me?"

I am not sure you really want what you are asking for and this is the reason why I feel that way:

I believe that what you want is for the "subconscious" to have sufficient control over the "conscious personality (YOU)" that it can control YOU, at times, where IT will be able to remove or control YOUR free-will and self-control abilities.

(Can that be done? YES and NO, BUT, if and when it is YES there may well be a significant real "price" to pay.)

What you seem to me to be also asking for is for YOU to be able to control when YOU will not have free-will and self-control.

I won't say that is not possible, (NEVER having tried myself to create that). But I believe THAT it would be extremely difficult to really be able to condition the subconscious to work the way YOU want it to. If successful, that conditioning process would probably take a very lengthy period of time to get things to work successfully as desired, IF EVER.

The NO is because there would be an extreme DANGER in what you seek that might end up creating situations and conditions that may well be far removed from what you desire.

And THAT danger would be much more likely to occur than the much more difficult process YOU really desire.


The danger lies in teaching the subconscious how to take control over your free-will and self-control.

Once it is taught how to do that, IT will never forget what it has learned. AND IT will have also learned that IT then has the ability to use that control over YOU in situations where YOU might not want IT to do so and YOU will then be helpless to prevent it from doing so, if IT so desires.

Note: (One of the reasons why I warn those I train, that they need to be absolutely sure they want what I will do to them, because there will come a point in my training where even "I" can not "reverse things" and return them to the way they were before we started my training. So, if they want my training to become a "perfect" slave, then they better really want THAT, because at some point they will be helpless to prevent it from occurring.)

Whoever, or whatever designed and programmed the "boot system" of our biological supercomputer (our subconscious and unconscious mental and physical functions) had the wisdom to make them extremely powerful, but at the same time basically ignorant of their full potentials; and limited them primarily to only deductive reasoning (which prevents them from easily finding out for themselves just what all they ARE capable of doing and HOW to do it, and lets them only do so via "trial and error" on their part and some degree of limited inductive reasoning once the conscious personality begins developing (with the upper cortex of the brain) from around age 7-9, until around age 25-30. This normally causes the subconscious to rely primarily on the conscious personalities or those it trusts and comes in contact with, for its guidance and direction and awareness of what it is or might be capable of being able to do.

My training overwrites some of that "boot system programming" and what you seek would also do that.

In my case, the newly reprogrammed "slave" will have a "master" to do its critical thinking for it and thus the subconscious is conditioned to submit to that master in full subservience and obedience and so will be able to "safely" function without those original built-in limitations, assuming that master exercises good sense and judgement.

But what you seek (being able to control all things necessary by yourself), once the subconscious has been taught NOT to rely on YOUR will and desires, it will NOT have anyone external to rely on to do the inductive thinking IT is not very good at doing by ITSELF. Thus its limited good sense judgement may cause unexpected and potentially harmful effects and results.

I can NOT OVER-CAUTION you, NOT to try to bring this "fantasy" into "reality" for YOUR sake. (Not by yourself, or with my help or with the help of any other person, unless you ARE going to set up an external "master" who will oversee your personal situation and thus keep things within safe and sane limits.)
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin2 » December 18th, 2019, 6:45 am

The files I use, I created over years. A few guys have used a few of them.

The later ones have a trigger in, designed so that certain kinds of commands would always be obeyed...if the individual was alone and in private or sufficiently discreet circumstances. This was intended mostly for my own self punishment degradation training and treatment. The limits included no public performance or even hints of any kind, no involvement of non consenting others, no harm or infection risk to others, no law breaking.

The range of behaviour itself was further limited to varieties of bondage I could achieve solo, as well as the filth consumption behaviour I detail elsewhere.

I have to work solo or semi solo, I can get at times a guy on WhatsApp or elsewhere to trigger me and order me, but that's about it and it's not a true master type relationship.

There is clearly something I need out of the scenes I do do, especially when I've gone very far with one.

Having a working alter (mine has a different designation) to control me in these sessions is what I hope to achieve, whereby I can't actually avoid obedience when the circumstances are correct for it.

Some of the behaviours are decidedly high risk and that seems to be part of the attraction.

Now, I suspect at best, the most I can humbly request of any experienced hypnotist who looks at this, is assistance and advice on how to make this far more compelling and real.

Given the limitations I've built into it, I don't think it quite as bad as all that, as sessions only occur alone and in private and the behaviour range, whilst deeply unpleasant for most, again is within particular boundaries.

It is within triggered circumstances I really do want to be under the complete control of the inner demon alter for the duration, that way I will have to complete the tasks and punishments in question.

Having heard this, is this something you could or would consider helping me with or pointing me towards help to achieve?

Its not a problem if not, I asked because the content of this discussion looked strongly related...i will continue to search every so often for a means to do this :)

Thank you for taking the time to detail your answer as you have. I'm grateful.

P. S I tried for a long time to find a suitable master or partner for this but what I want is not something lost want to be involved with and I have a relationship, so I can't I've with another master at all.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin2 » December 18th, 2019, 7:22 am

We may be operating from different mental models of personality and mind.

Yours works with the subconscious/conscious model.

I see things from a multiplicity point of view, where most minds are multiple personalities of varying degree of development and complexity.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 19th, 2019, 5:38 am

To Kazrin2: (responding to your last two posts in this one post.)

"Having heard this, is this something you could or would consider helping me with or pointing me towards help to achieve?"

Since, it is my belief that you are not looking to become an owned and controlled slave to some master, (please correct me if I am wrong), then I think what I do is not the best for what you want to achieve.

However, as I have mentioned in previous responses, there is another website, (which in no way competes with this wonderful site), that is dedicated to the erotic use of hypnosis for guys, called " hypnosisforguys.com " that has lots of other hypnotists, (most without my years of experience, but with more than enough that one of them could serve you well in trying to achieve what you seem to desire.)

The membership of that site is free, so I would encourage you to open a free account there and in your profile express exactly what you are seeking, in the hopes of finding one of the more experienced hypnotists there to work with you. Seek out a hypnotist that has at least 15 to 20 + years experience to have a good chance of finding one, experienced enough, that will be able to assist you.

As to your second post:


"We may be operating from different mental models of personality and mind.
Yours works with the subconscious/conscious model.

I see things from a multiplicity point of view, where most minds are multiple personalities of varying degree of development and complexity."


We ARE on the same page. What you indicate is exactly how things "normally" are "consciously and subconsciously", especially in situations where the subconscious has not been "trained" to create a specific alter-ego.

You are right in stating that the "normal" state of affairs is a multiplicity of under-developed personalities (consciously and subconsciously), and where the subconscious usually does not have sufficient knowledge as to how to control the other personalities (which itself is also actually not sufficiently focused into a fixed single personality, and where it usually helps the conscious personalities be many different things to different people in different situations (offspring, sibling, parent, spouse, boss and/or employee, church member, etc., on and on goes the possible list).

What happens in my case is that a fixed subconscious personality (alter-ego), with specific direction and focus, is created and taught how to "take control" over the "total being" and to use that control to make changes in the "reality" of those "conscious personalities", when and where directed to do so by its "master"/"creator").


CAUTION to all readers of this post:

I can not emphasize strongly enough for all persons, who allow themselves to be put under "hypnotic control", to be extremely careful who they allow access to their "mind".

Do NOT believe the erroneous statement often quoted, "that a person under hypnosis can not be made to do anything that is against his/her morals or will."

In the hands of a skilled enough hypnotist, with sufficient time and access to a person's mind, that statement is TOTALLY false!!!!!

As an hypothetical example: Let's take one of the more difficult types of alterations that is totally "doable", in the hands of a hypnotist with my level of skill, given sufficient time and access to a guy's mind.

Take a totally straight guy, one who has never had thoughts or desires at either level of mind to be anything but "totally straight sexually". One that has had numerous sexual encounters and fantasies with females for at least 30 or more years of his life. Who, normally, is totally turned off and disgusted at the mere thought of being involved in anything homosexual.

Given enough time and access to his mind, not only can he be "turned" "gay", but his "past reality" can be altered to the point where he loses all memory of ever having had any relationships and/or sexual experiences with girls or women and believes he has always been gay and "remembers" he has had numerous gay sexual experiences in the past, and desires only that type of future sexual experiences. Where he is now only sexually aroused by such homosexual thoughts and experiences and is sexually turned off completely by any type of sexual thought or interaction with females.

Now, that is not easy and certainly not something that can be achieved quickly. Fortunately most hypnotists do not have THAT level of knowledge and skill, but and it is a big BUT, that IS "possible" and "doable" with enough access to the guy's mind in the hands of a skilled enough hypnotist.

Noted: Other hypnotists do not need to bother asking me HOW it can be achieved, THAT knowledge I will NEVER reveal, because of all the ways it could be abused by some hypnotists to the detriment of some subjects. If you want to know how, then gain the same 65+ years experience I have had and you will then know how it can be achieved.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin2 » December 21st, 2019, 4:48 am

First: Thank you very much for the link. Have joined.

My life circumstances are such that I cannot be dedicating myself to one master and vastly prefer the idea of finding that, when alone and in private, suitable circumstances, I have the experience of extreme enslavement to embedded commands and compulsions for the behaviours in question. I've had some of this experience, at times, already, so I know I do enjoy it even though I put myself through fairly intense and difficult stresses in order to obey.

This sentence is interesting:

"Do NOT believe the erroneous statement often quoted, "that a person under hypnosis can not be made to do anything that is against his/her morals or will."

To me, the clue is the person's morals or will. I don't know how easy it would be to alter their morals, but I suspect changing their will is a matter of deliberately shifting what they accept as normal for themselves, helping them adjust what they believe they desire in a myriad of ways. Something I suspect I've tried in self hypnosis but clearly not quite succeeded in doing as I recall too well what I was like before.

It doesn't help that I have multiple identities of a sort, non traumatogenic, and therefore there are times where what I think I want...or what "I" is, gets um cloudy :)

I suspect if I wasn't working and lived alone and invested the money for the equipment, it's possible I could perform the conditioning as a solo masochist exercise, but it would probably take longer; I'm guessing.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 23rd, 2019, 12:17 pm

To "kzarin2"

"This sentence is interesting:

'Do NOT believe the erroneous statement often quoted, "that a person under hypnosis can not be made to do anything that is against his/her morals or will.'

To me, the clue is the person's morals or will. I don't know how easy it would be to alter their morals, but I suspect changing their will is a matter of deliberately shifting what they accept as normal for themselves, helping them adjust what they believe they desire in a myriad of ways."

Note: When I write, unless I state that what I am saying is a hypothetical, what I say is based on my personal experience over the last 66 years of hypnosis practice with well over 1000+ subjects. When I say it is a hypothetical, it is either something I believe is totally possible, based on my experience, or possibly something that is a direct experience, but I choose not to state that it is, for various possible reasons.

As to changing our morals and will, it should be noted that what/who we "are" consciously now is the result of what we "believe" our past has been, based on our consciously "remembered" past. But our memories are not "locked in stone. They can be and many times are altered by various possible means, "Both our present "morals" and present "will" and what we think we are and have "always" been is based on our conscious memory.

When a hypnotist has created an alter-ego that trusts and believes in that hypnotist, if that hypnotist is experienced enough, he can convince that alter-ego to make any changes to the "conscious memory" by eliminating "true memories" and substituting "fake memories" in their place, including adding the "fake memory" that the conscious "remembers" it has "always remembered the fake memories".

Now, luckily for the subject, such permanent memory alterations are not easily accomplished by the alter-ego. Short term memories can easily be achieved (as when a hypnotist causes the conscious level to forget its name or a given number), but altering "long term memory" is not the same thing and is much more complicated and time consuming.

So in order to accomplish that feat, the hypnotist must have an extended period of access to the subject's mind, over a rather long period of time, for those memory alterations to become complete and permanent consciously. But much more importantly, the hypnotist must also have a strong rapport, built up over an extended period of time with that alter-ego, and that level of intense "love" and "trust" by the alter-ego in that hypnotist must always be maintained, even after the hypnotist's access to that subject has ended.

If that intense rapport ever breaks down for any reason, all the original memories will still be in the subconscious and that alter-ego can easily return the original memories to the conscious level; as well as, memory of the attempt to alter said memories, thus restoring said morals and will.


At this point I must provide a warning to budding hypnotists, to prevent them from making some kind of life altering mistake by fantasying and then attempting to realize their fantasy on an unsuspecting subject in a non-consensual situation. (Such as a gay college student who has learned hypnosis to a limited degree, and who is rooming with an "attractive to him" straight roommate and gets so sexually aroused by said roommate that the gay budding hypnotist tries to use this technique to turn that straight roommate into his "gay" lover.)

Now, this kind of "stunt" may make for excellent gay hypnotic porn reading on "mcstories.com", but fantasy and reality are not the same thing usually. There are so many ways such a "stunt" could backfire and land said gay roommate in prison for a minimum of 10 years, a life-time classification as a sex offender and possibly sued civilly for pain and suffering and psychiatric expenses that arise from treatments by a psychiatrist to undo any mental damage that might have resulted from said "stunt".

I am not going to list all the ways such a stunt could backfire, because in doing so, I might be enabling some future budding hypnotist to still attempt such a reckless act, beyond his level of expertise, and thereby be partially responsible for such an attempt and its resulting harm to said subject(s).

But the creation of alter-egos is filled with so many possible complications, even when and where the subject is willing and aware of what is being attempted, that I would suggest that hypnotists with less than 20 or more years of frequent successful hypnotic experience should delay such attempts.

Again, I am going to warn that any such uses of hypnosis which go wrong, if they do, the hypnotist's expression of regret and explanations that such results were unintended will not impress any criminal or civil judge or jury in the slightest, nor will they lessen said resulting legal penalties.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby kzarin2 » December 26th, 2019, 1:33 am

Legal wise, sadly, it would be a tough one to prove I suspect. How many cases have ever come up of such misuse. Evidence would an issue. But that's just an aside.

I'd have serious moral concerns about anyone desiring to do this stuff non consensually to others. Actually it's not doubts, it's certainties. It's wrong, no two ways.

The fact I want a particular deep difficult experience is on me. I wouldn't wish to know how to fuck someone else up this way. Except sadly, I suspect knowing how to do this myself, naturally is likely to be mostly the same thing excepting that I'd need similar access over a long period to someone else.

What are the morals between two consenting adults however?

To have myself altered so that I can't remember a time where I didn't obey the inner sewage demon when I was I private. Dunno but just thinking of being bound that way, I'm sorry, arouses me ridiculously. And has done for a very long time, hence I would argue that for me it's perfectly moral and acceptable to be hoisted, with my consent, to this inner alter ego despite the quite high risks it represents. After all I guess my one life belongs to me.

Would I condone this desire to anyone else? Not really, not unless they too have had the life and experience that leads them in full awareness to where I am now. There's nothing soft and nice in it at all. It's harsh, it's abuse of oneself that is also self harm and for many something to be judged as needing treatment.

Yeah, the treatment is having to do it.

I've seen plenty on fetlife and else where of extreme slaves who got what they wanted, and in their own suffering, love it.

I can't get from another the balance of sadism, control and treatment I'm after, and no I can't justify it outside of my mind.

I'm 42, I've only done hypnosis since I was 23 so I'm not the grizzled old mind surgeon you are. And I wouldn't wish to operate on someone else's mind to the extent I want to on mine.

Anyway I suspect if we do discuss this in detail further, it is possible to give enough clues to others that would be slightly ethically tricky.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby masterdo77 » December 26th, 2019, 1:42 pm

This kind of training is exactly what my slave and I are looking for. Would be really nice if themasterhim or nicord could contact me to clarify a few details to start this training.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » December 26th, 2019, 4:17 pm

masterdo77 wrote:This kind of training is exactly what my slave and I are looking for. Would be really nice if themasterhim or nicord could contact me to clarify a few details to start this training.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » March 24th, 2020, 10:07 pm

Hey Nicord or Themasterhim, have any of these files been used - the basic ones - by people to meet their hypno goals? I imagine they could be effectively used for maintaing sexual interest after ejaculation for a guy in regular life (not related to a bdsm relationship.)
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » March 24th, 2020, 10:49 pm

activecanada wrote:Hey Nicord or Themasterhim, have any of these files been used - the basic ones - by people to meet their hypno goals? I imagine they could be effectively used for maintaining sexual interest after ejaculation for a guy in regular life (not related to a bdsm relationship.)


I have used the basic files to increase a guy's hypnotizability (ability to go into trance for someone who has been having trouble doing so). To a degree they will also help the guy to remain horny and erect after cumming as well.

They do not convert the guy into a controlled slave, that only comes from doing the advanced level sessions.

But, in order for the basic level sessions to work, they have to be DONE (not just read) exactly as instructed. For guys who are not basically gay, that could be a problem because they are highly gay sex oriented. There sessions are a form of active conscience hypnosis and the ability to enter trance is only created late in the 39 basic sessions normally.

Things start out with no trance and as the subconscious is slowly trained then it learns how to put the conscious personalty into trance by itself. For guys used to entering trance, they will do so soon in the earlier sessions.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » June 20th, 2020, 11:15 am

Hey, Masterhim. I was going over asking for your scripts from Nicord, but I am not quite right for the files. But, I suddenly realized that I could ask you a question that you might annswer: what is the best type of file, in your experience - maybe something you've heard - to train a guy for a trance. I'm having trouble making hypnosis files work, and I don't think that I should go through all your text files just for that, although that would work. I don't even really like the idea of becoming more submissive.

Thanks! :P
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » August 7th, 2020, 8:08 pm

activecanada wrote:But, I suddenly realized that I could ask you a question that you might annswer: what is the best type of file, in your experience - maybe something you've heard - to train a guy for a trance. I'm having trouble making hypnosis files work, and I don't think that I should go through all your text files just for that, although that would work. I don't even really like the idea of becoming more submissive. Thanks! :P


First let me apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I rarely come on this site and only do so if someone summons me here by responding to something I have written and I get notified of their posting. Or if someone on here sends me a "private" message on here. Which is why I am here now and just saw your question.

"... maybe something you have heard ..."

Sorry, but I do not use audio files, so I can not recommend any for you. If there are some on here that would be good for your purpose, helpfully, someone on here will write you or respond here and tell you what you might try.

"...I'm having trouble making hypnosis files work,..."

I am going to make an assumption, (and we know what that can mean :lol: ), by hypnotic "files", I assume you mean some of the audio files on here. Also, assuming they have been well made (meaning several different people have used them successfully), then I am going to make some comments about hypnosis in general and using audio files (or text files) that might prove to be of value to you in your quest.

First let's talk about "trance"

There are several different states of mind that are referred to as "trance"
(1) "Conscious Heightened Focus": Some "hypnotists" tell their subjects to focus their attention on the " 'sound' of my voice", or "on my words", or "on some object". This "fixation" method is not a true "hypnotic trance", but may be initially used to lead into one. (Many times it leads to "hypnotic role-play".)
(2) "Meditative State of Mind": Again this is not a "hypnotic trance", but also may be converted into one.
(3) "Drug Induced Altered Consciousness": Again not a "hypnotic trance" and usually does not lend itself to a useful "hypnotic trance". It may lead to a useful state of mind, just not a "hypnotic" one, with a few exceptions, like when Sodium Pentothal or Scopolamine (Devil's Breath or Burundanga), etc. are used.
(4) Subconscious Focus (Subconscious "Rapport"; with or without Conscious focus, and/or awareness; with or without physical relaxation): This is what is usually meant by "hypnotic trance". (Note: it does not require an altered state of consciousness). Nor does it require a physically relaxed state or an amnesia.
(5) Somnambulism: (Conscious Disassociation) This is the deepest form of hypnotic trance.

When people refer to a "hypnotic trance" as having a physical and/or mental relaxed state and/or ending with amnesia, they have no real understanding of what hypnosis is or how it really works.

Also, note in (4) above that a "hypnotic trance" can be very dynamic physically (stage hypnosis) and emotionally (religious revivals and political rallies and riots) and may end with total recall.

To obtain excellent hypnotic effects, no "consciously focused, or physically and mental relaxed hypnotic trance" is really needed. (If that were not so, advertisers wouldn't spend the tremendous sums they do spend on advertising.)

That type of "trance" is usually suggested because most beginning hypnotists and their subjects mistakenly "believe" it is necessary. And many subjects fail to enjoy hypnotic benefits because they think they have to go into that type of trance and if they don't, they believe everything failed and THAT is what causes the ultimate failure.

So, what IS helpful or necessary for excellent hypnotic results?

(1) (Helpful): Conscious consent and understanding as to what the hypnosis is going to be used for or produce in the way of change.

(2) (Helpful): Conscious expectation that what will be done will in fact "work".

(3) (Necessary): Subconscious Rapport, cooperation, expectation, and willingness to do or not do, or make the requested changes.

(4) (Very Helpful): Repetition, Repetition, Repetition! There is a very good reason why rehabilitation programs take a minimum of 28 days. It is because it takes at least that long to make or break a mental habit. Whatever suggestions you want to work permanently, they need to be repeated many times, and over an extended period of time. The more often and the longer they get repeated, the better they will work.

So, whatever audio files you listen to, make sure you do so no less than once a day and for no less that 28 days.

In my Basic Level sessions, I have my trainees read 13 different sessions, but only one different one a day. They are each separate from the others, but very similar in context. Then they repeat those same 13 sessions two more times for a total of 39 sessions over 39 days. (Doing no more than one session a day, but repeated as many times that day as time and privacy will permit. I tell them the more often they do each session the faster and better things will work.)

In my case, no trance is initially suggested directly because no trance is needed, just feeding the subconscious with my words as often as possible is all that is needed. However, over time, the subconscious will start putting the trainee into a hypnotic trance all by itself eventually on its own as it learns how to come to my session's words all by itself, separately and independently of the conscious self.

(5) (Extremely Helpful): Self-Reinforcers should be used frequently in each session to help reinforce the desired action and strengthen the response to it.

By self-reinforcers, I mean phrases that will automatically remind the subconscious to trigger some desired set of instructions. That will automatically occur throughout the days, months and years, without needing to be repeated by listening or reading another session.

Such phrases as: "Every day, with the rising of the sun, whether he sees it or not, followed by ... (whatever you want triggered.)", or "Every day in every way, followed by ... (the desired action to be triggered.)", or "(Whatever you want reinforced), followed by the words "now, always and forever.", or "With each breath the body takes, and with each beat of the heart, followed by ... (what you want triggered and reinforced)".

Or finally, something like this:

"Whenever, wherever, and however my words enter the body, you, subconscious will automatically come to my words, all by yourself, separately and independently of him. You will take control over of all of the mind and all of the body, and all of the emotions and absorb my words, making them a part of you and him and you will obey my words, or (you will cause him to obey my words), causing everything to be exactly as I want it to be, now, always, and forever.

Every day in every way, with the rising of the sun. whether he sees it or not, you, subconscious, will automatically grow stronger and deeper in my words, they will strengthen you and empower you and give you total control over all of the mind and all of the body and all of the emotions and all of the total being, separately and independently of him and they will enable you to be able to obey my words and cause him to obey my words, without thought, without doubt, without worry or concern, now, always and forever."

(6) (Extremely Helpful): Since what we are after with hypnotic suggestions is to get subconscious responses to our suggestions, then the sessions should be worded by talking to the subconscious as if it were a separate entity from the conscious personality, because it is. So, pronouns in the second person should be used to reference the subconscious and third person pronouns should be used to refer to the conscious personality.

(7) (For Maximum Results): To get maximum effect out of the sessions, whenever possible, they should somehow be tied to the mind's/body's "Pleasure Center", as a reward from doing the sessions and obeying the suggestions contained in them.

That is why all of my sessions are "jerk-off" sessions, where the trainee plays with himself sexually while being hypnotized by the session, as directed in the words. And the session always ends with an hypnotic enhanced orgasm.

Contained in the sessions' wording are suggestions to enhance the trainees sexual pleasure when directed to orgasm.

Thus not only does he enjoy doing the sessions, (A built-in reinforcer for doing them), but by giving suggestions to enhance the orgasm with each passing session, the sessions soon become addictive, thus causing the user to want to repeat them as often as possible, thus giving my words much more daily access to the subconscious and since the subconscious also enjoys the orgasms, that causes it to want to obey my words, to keep getting its orgasm reward.

Some final thoughts:

If by chance, no one on here writes you with suggestions of audio files that might better help you, then I would suggest that you take the audio files that you have been trying to get success with and write their wording out in a word processor document. Then edit them yourself to include what you want, using some of my above suggestions for enhancing them to help you make them more effective. Then either re-record your edited versions, or use their print copy as a text file session and then use them over and over on a daily basis, repeatedly, until the subconscious does kick in and give you the results you desire.

Good sessions need only take less than a half hour to read or listen to in order to produce almost any type of hypnotic result you probably want out of them, if repeated often enough and letting the subconscious do so in its own way and time frame. Put no time limit expectations as to how long it will take, just keep repeating until the subconscious figures out how to best give you what you are asking.

Hopefully, this will prove of help for you.

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Re: themasterhim

Postby xdude » December 12th, 2020, 10:27 am

yeap
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Re: themasterhim

Postby moonku » January 14th, 2021, 8:48 am

I'm really interested in the files.
Can someone send me a copy or sample through DM
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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » January 15th, 2021, 11:21 am

I saw a sample sessions under his profile on hypnosisforguys.com
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » February 10th, 2021, 9:49 pm

Well I've sent email to master Nicord, who hasn't responded. I did read through masterhim's wonderful reply to my question, and made an attempt to convert a couple of the files to text format, and although that file didn't work, I did some shortcuts. I'm looking for guidance, but Nicord doesn't visit enough. Otherwise, I guess I'll try again!
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Re: themasterhim

Postby xdude » February 11th, 2021, 2:04 pm

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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » September 7th, 2021, 5:32 am

wonder if the covid got him?
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Re: themasterhim

Postby activecanada » October 16th, 2021, 8:53 pm

Well I did find Nicord on HypnosisforGuys, thanks Xdude. I am not right for it as I don't want to be submissive. I guess I'd have to make a submissive alter so that I could normally function.
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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » October 30th, 2021, 8:33 am

I sent him an email about a month ago, I can only assume that the Covid got him.He was up there in Age ( I think he was over 80)
rip
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Re: themasterhim

Postby themasterhim » November 3rd, 2021, 4:45 pm

My assumed death is a bit premature. I am still very much alive. I am 83 years old and have enough medical problems that Big Pharma is increasing its bottom line as a result of my doctor trying to keep me alive.

I don't come on here often because I specialize in email based hypnosis and not audio.

I have been fairly inactive hypnosis-wise, except for a few guys who want to just keep doing my sessions.

For all intents and purposes, I am basically "retired" from training.

Spending most of my time supplementing my SSA income and paying for my medications by investing/trading in crypto coins.

(If you are not also doing so, then you should be, unless you are filthy rich and don't need to "magnify" your money).

To date, between 2014 and 2017, I initially invested approximately $4000 (a little at a time) in various crypto coins and those investments have increased now to over $200,000 so far, (as of 5 minutes ago. 11/03/2021 2:50 PM).

And for those of you who think Bitcoin at $63,000/coin is too high, it is no where near what it will be worth over the next 5 or so years.

And Ethereum at $4600 is under priced as well, when compared to what its full potential value will be over the next couple of years.

Remember, you do NOT have to buy whole coins. The coins trade in amounts as low as $10 plus fees (Fee amounts are based on what exchange you are buying them from.) On Coinbase, a $10.00 purchase would get you $9.01 worth of Bitcoin (or what other coin you may be purchasing) with a $0.99 Fee. and if you made that purchase in Bitcoin now, you would have gotten 0.00015761th of a Bitcoin. @ $63,447.75/coin (present cost).

I am writing about this, not to brag, but because crypto coins are still a "once in a Lifetime" investment/speculation opportunity and most people are missing out of how to protect their "savings" from the politicians and the Fed and their resulting "inflation theft". And as a result, those investing and/or saving in dollar denominated assets may soon lose their saving because they didn't get their savings "out" of "dollar denominated assets". (Like stocks, bonds, real estate, or bank related savings accounts.) And instead, you should put it into something that the politicians and Fed can't confiscate, steal, devalue, inflate to the point of worthlessness, or control.

Even wealthy individuals, corporations and investment funds, and hedge funds are quietly pouring billions and billions of dollars into buying crypto coins and shares in crypto coin investment funds, either directly or indirectly. They have poured so much money into crypto coins that the government and Fed will not be able to just outlaw crypto coins.

For example Graystone Bitcoin Trust, all by itself, owns over 700,000 Bitcoins. Currently @ $63,000/coin that equals an investment of $44.1 Billion dollars worth of Bitcoin. Which is over 50% of the over 1.4 million Bitcoins currently owned by public traded companies and currently worth over $88. 2 Billion dollars.

The political pressure from all that money invested, by "smart money", will act as a "guarantee" that crypto coins will continue to remain an "investment" vehicle/asset into the future in the USA. Crypto coins will be regulated but not outlawed.

During my 61 year long working career, for 3 years I served as a member of the Board of Trustees for a State Employee's Retirement Fund and for 9 year's as the VP of the Board of Trustees for a local County's Teacher's Retirement Fund, so I have a bit of experience in investing.



Joecomp2000: I do not remember seeing an email from you.

If you sent it here, I haven't been on here in months. I only come on here when someone tells me they saw a message on here about me. That is why I am here now.

My email is "themasterhim@gmail.com"

Now as I said, I am no longer accepting new trainees, however, I am willing to answer hypnotic related questions, etc.

For anyone looking for a hypnotic "master" who will work with them, I would suggest that you go to the "free" (and "non-competing" against WMM) site "hypnosisforguys.com" There are lots of hypnotists on that site (few, if any, with my 68 years of practice and experience, but someone there should be able to find what they are looking for there. (But, like here, I am rarely on that site as well, now that I have retired from training, so if you want or need to contact me, do so, though my email address above and not on one of the sites I now infrequently visit from time to time.

If someone wants to write me at my email address above. I can't guarantee an immediate response, but I will respond as soon as I am able. Depending on the degree of complexity of your question or comment and the resulting need for a somewhat lengthy answer on my part, my response may take longer than that which needs only a quick answer or comment. But I will respond if desired. If your email goes to THAT email address above, I will see it daily, but if sent to one of the sites I belong to, it might not be seen for weeks or months.

May you all have a healthy and happy holiday season and a hopefully good new year.

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Re: themasterhim

Postby joecomp2000 » November 7th, 2021, 5:54 pm

great to hear
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