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Can the mind increase penis size while growing breasts

Postby chase1 » September 1st, 2015, 5:27 pm

I was wondering if that is a physical possibility, or if the responsible hormones would counteract each other.

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Postby Endo » September 2nd, 2015, 6:53 am

I don't know enough biology (especially on sexual development) to answer your question directly, but there's a good hypnosis reason for why this is tricky: Penises are generally "masculine", and boobs are generally "feminine". It's hard for people to hold both ideas simultaneously for very long: "I am becoming more feminine" and "I am becoming more masculine" are directly contrary.

Now, a workaround might be to use an erection-based penis growth file. Jack Drago is a very enthusiastic salesman of one of his versions of this type of file. By minimizing the effect of male hormones on your system, you might be able to make it work.

I'm sure there are quite a few other opinions out there that would run contrary to mine, so don't take what I say as anything definitive.
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Postby JackDrago » September 2nd, 2015, 8:26 am

I would say that the hormones would be your main problem. Breast growth requires prolactin, which is such a powerful blocker of Male hormones that they use it for chemical castration.

FYI: I don't just promote my own files, I have had success with Porn Star Penis, and reported that as well.
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Postby Endo » September 6th, 2015, 1:25 pm

No offense meant, Jack. Your file is just a stand-out in my mind whenever the subject comes up.
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Postby iked » October 19th, 2015, 8:24 pm

Given that estrogen and testosterone do coexist in the body, I don't see why this wouldn't work. One of the big things that I've noticed is general penis growth techniques overall is jelqing and blood flow - essentially, stretching out the skin/head of the member in order to appear larger/facilitate cell growth. This doesn't necessarily tie into hormonal issues, so the two operating independently of eachother shouldn't be a problem.

I mean, in the course of the human existence, hormones are all over the place for both guys and gals. Increasing estrogen levels for an average man doesn't change a whole lot - iirc I was reading an article stating that in some cases estrogen levels are higher on average for some males than the average female - general counteraction yadda yadda. I don't know. I'm not a flippin' biologist. :<

Prioritizing reinforcement of blood flow/exercises for the nether member while slapping somebody across the face with feminine hormonal changes should still work.
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Postby JackDrago » October 20th, 2015, 9:20 am

iked wrote:Given that estrogen and testosterone do coexist in the body, I don't see why this wouldn't work. One of the big things that I've noticed is general penis growth techniques overall is jelqing and blood flow - essentially, stretching out the skin/head of the member in order to appear larger/facilitate cell growth. This doesn't necessarily tie into hormonal issues, so the two operating independently of eachother shouldn't be a problem.

I mean, in the course of the human existence, hormones are all over the place for both guys and gals. Increasing estrogen levels for an average man doesn't change a whole lot - iirc I was reading an article stating that in some cases estrogen levels are higher on average for some males than the average female - general counteraction yadda yadda. I don't know. I'm not a flippin' biologist. :<

Prioritizing reinforcement of blood flow/exercises for the nether member while slapping somebody across the face with feminine hormonal changes should still work.


In male bodies, estrogen is made from testosterone by the process of aromatization. Testosterone becomes DHT, the hormone that causes male pattern baldness, and from there through another chemical step to estrogen. To grow the Penis, you need Testosterone and DHT, to grow breasts you need estrogen and prolactin.

You are totally right that both male and female bodies can have huge hormone swings in either direction, but unless you have ovaries to make estrogen directly from DHEA , your testosterone levels will necessarily suffer if you make your body make more estrogen because the one is made from the other in males.
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Postby OxyFemboi » October 20th, 2015, 3:12 pm

Can the mind increase penis size while growing breasts?

The question is intriguing. However, I have found that it is easier to do one of two contradictory things at a time.

Estrogen-- in excess of what a normal male produces -- is needed to grow breasts. A normal to high testosterone is needed so you have enough of a sex drive to jerk off often, which is needed to enlarge your penis. You cannot increase both at the same time.

Estrogen is required to develop breasts. The more estrogen, along with the other female hormones estradiol and progesterone, the better. Some herbs [used in excess of label instructions] such as fenugreek, black cohosh, and a few others (easily found by googling "herb breast enlargement"will also help you grow breasts. Excess female hormones will decrease penis size; you need to allow for this when enlarging your penis by growing it past the size you want to end up at.

Males need at least a normal testosterone level (more is better) to fuel the sex drive. The sex drive makes a male desire to masturbate often. Jerking off often, assisted by a suitable hypnosis file, is the best way to increase penis size.

If you're looking for a "shemale" look, I recommend that you increase testosterone first, increasing your desire to wank often while listening to which ever penis growth file you think will work best for you. After you are at least an inch or two over your desired size, use a testosterone conversion file to increase estrogen levels. This will also decrease penis size, though. Thus, you need to be generous in allowing your cock to grow beyond where you want it to be.

Good luck.
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Postby Jackstock » November 13th, 2015, 10:28 pm

The mind can do anything to the body.
There are NO LIMITS
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Postby Endo » November 14th, 2015, 9:24 am

Jackstock wrote:The mind can do anything to the body.
There are NO LIMITS

Ha.

Please, go right on ahead and listen to a file that promises real-life wings, sprouting from your back. We'll wait to hear about your successes.
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Postby ProfessorPig » November 14th, 2015, 7:12 pm

Endo wrote:
Jackstock wrote:The mind can do anything to the body.
There are NO LIMITS

Ha.

Please, go right on ahead and listen to a file that promises real-life wings, sprouting from your back. We'll wait to hear about your successes.


that's not a limit of the mind, that's a limit of the body... :P
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Postby OxyFemboi » November 15th, 2015, 2:04 am

Endo wrote
Jackstock wrote
The mind can do anything to the body.
There are NO LIMITS


Ha.

Please, go right on ahead and listen to a file that promises real-life wings, sprouting from your back. We'll wait to hear about your successes


We can't even make a jetpack that will keep a human in the air; the few I have seen on undoctored film will induce spectacular third-degree burns on the pilot's ass and legs. Regardless of the special effects Hollywood used in The Rocketeer, the X-Men films that included Angel, and other films, we can't fly on our own. Yet. Even though the Jetsons had jetpacks and flying cars, we don't.

The problem with specifying wings as an example of what the mind can do is that it isn't "just" the ability of the mind to prod the body into making wings. Bird's wings and bones are lighter (and more brittle) so the birds' wings can lift the bird. For that to happen for a human, you'd need a superb bio-engineering laboratory, a few (hundred) genius-level geneticists, and a a government program with the equivalent in today's dollars of the Manhattan Project budget ... and probably several "breakthroughs" in genetics.

I sincerely doubt that even my genius-level subconscious would want to take on the project of designing a human body for self-powered flight. Lighter, more brittle bones, better-performing muscles, and a more efficient digestive tract are just a few of the problems to be solved. And you want someone's subconscious to do this ... alone? We can't even do this with technology; why should our subconscious be able to do it? Pick something reasonable as a test case.

How about asking the subconscious to make someone look as if they are a member of another "race" (whatever that word means). Let's say the test case is making a Caucasian look more Oriental. It can be done with makeup and/or plastic surgery, so the mind should find it easier. Identify which features or characteristics make a person look as if they had oriental ancestry. Epicanthic folds? It's a matter of telling some muscles around the eyes to tighten/loosen in a different pattern. A lower lip that protrudes more? Simple; most kids have done that when pouting; add some cell growth to the base of the lip. Less prominent cheeks? Tighten the cheek muscles while losing a few thousand cells beneath the skin. The skin color might take few months but that could probably be solved in a gradual release of melanin over a month or two. The skin wouldn't have to darken that much, only a few shades.
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Postby Jackstock » November 20th, 2015, 9:04 am

Endo wrote:
Jackstock wrote:The mind can do anything to the body.
There are NO LIMITS

Ha.

Please, go right on ahead and listen to a file that promises real-life wings, sprouting from your back. We'll wait to hear about your successes.


LOL Endo, I think you know what I mean!

This OP asks if he can grow two different body parts at the same time and this conversation turns into frustration about the fact that no one has successfully made a proper jetpack yet :lol:

oh, and btw Oxyfemboi... I hope your dreams come true
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