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Insanity

PostPosted: May 7th, 2018, 12:56 pm
by 242424
Simple idea: a file that'll drive its listener totally insane. I'm talking totally fucked up and twisted psychopath level insane. Obviously this one would be good as a temporary experience instead of a curse.

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: May 9th, 2018, 10:10 am
by JackDrago
I sincerely hope the hypnotists here are ethical enough to avoid doing such a thing. That said, Manly Spirit causes what psychologists would call Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: May 13th, 2018, 4:05 pm
by zapnosis
Simple idea: Don't even go there.

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: May 16th, 2018, 6:07 am
by Jackstock
I think we can relax on the ethical views of this... it would just be a fantasy. I don't believe you could actually turn insane from listening to an audio

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: May 16th, 2018, 9:49 pm
by OxyFemboi
JackStock wrote
I think we can relax on the ethical views of this... it would just be a fantasy. I don't believe you could actually turn insane from listening to an audio


Saying it's not possible is one way to make me wonder if I could actually make a file like that. I've written a few files that I haven't posted because they are constructed to cause a psychological effect described in the current list of psychological disorders, DSM-V. (This hasn't stopped me from posting alter files which cause MPD/DID, though.)

Oxy

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: May 18th, 2018, 2:58 pm
by JackDrago
@jackstock I have seen some BAD abreactions in my time, unfortunately psychological damage from hypnosis is totally possible. I have had to clean up after it and it's not pretty. The typical thing is an inept hypnotist who is trying to do something way beyond his skill, and / or a subject who failed to disclose a preexisting mental illness or piece of prior hypnosis that was incompatible.

Could it be done deliberately? Probably. You would need a very skilled hypnotist with an intimate knowledge of that particular subjects psychology and a subject who was vulnerable to such a thing. For it to stick the resulting insanity would have to be ecological for the subject, but there are many cases where that could be so; most notably the original poster's case of wanting to be insane. The hidden observer isn't going to protect a subject from a self chosen goal state.

My favorite example is Sgt Shaw (the brainwashed assassin in Manchurian Candidate): Ordinarily you couldn't hypnotize someone into being a killer, but Raymond Shaw as portrayed in the novel is an angry guy who subconsciously constantly wants to kill everyone. A subject who had the Sgt. Shaw ecology would fail to resist the suggestions to kill that 99% of subjects successfully resist precisely because it satisfies a preexisting subconscious need, and he only succeeds in killing someone other than the intended target because it's more ecological for him to kill his abusive mother (the true source of his rage) than it is to follow orders and kill yet another stranger.

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: August 5th, 2018, 6:53 pm
by Casey
This kind of file would be a lawsuit for sure.. even if the listener wanted it.. it would not stop family, friends, and loved ones suing...

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: August 6th, 2018, 5:31 am
by kzarin
I'd be interested in this as something to add to my own private work, as this sounds like a way to hollow out a resistant personality and fill it packed full of obedience to certain kinds of instructions. Which is the work I'm after.

Re: Insanity

PostPosted: August 8th, 2018, 7:49 am
by Jackstock
[url]This kind of file would be a lawsuit for sure.. even if the listener wanted it.. it would not stop family, friends, and loved ones suing...[/url]
Depends where you live, but the chances of that working in court are slim. Most people barely believe in hypnosis at all, especially not lawyers and judges.