The forced gay success thread...

[Dave564]

I started this thread 16 years ago - not bored at all, just hard to find time to post here while life is happening x

[jr987]

Well, I for one was at one point exclusively straight and now have a husband and a purse dog; so I’d say it works hun

Wow, that's an exciting result! How encouraging!

[jr987]

I started this thread 16 years ago - not bored at all, just hard to find time to post here while life is happening x

16 years is long ago! My kids were about 4 and I could hardly think about loving men for a minute. Now, I have time on my hands, and always glad to hear successes! And how did those 16 years go for you, in terms of your gayness?

[Dave564]

I was more or less fully gay and accepted this about 14 years ago, I'm no longer with the boyfriend who I had back then (although he was an amazing thing that happened to me)

but yeah things are good, I don't have a husband or a purse dog, but I do have dyed blonde hair and am currently chatting about pop music with a guy on grindr

[jr987]

I was more or less fully gay and accepted this about 14 years ago, I'm no longer with the boyfriend who I had back then (although he was an amazing thing that happened to me)

but yeah things are good, I don't have a husband or a purse dog, but I do have dyed blonde hair and am currently chatting about pop music with a guy on grindr

well, that's lovely to hear! did you start out gay and desire reinforcement using this (these) file(s)? or do you think you were straight when you started? I'm really curious about how much of a shift people have experienced.

[jr987]

I was more or less fully gay and accepted this about 14 years ago, I'm no longer with the boyfriend who I had back then (although he was an amazing thing that happened to me)

but yeah things are good, I don't have a husband or a purse dog, but I do have dyed blonde hair and am currently chatting about pop music with a guy on grindr

also curious to learn which files you found most powerful and/or meaningful.

[Dave564]

In my mind I was straight but had bi-curious tendancies - in no way did I believe I was gay though

[jr987]

In my mind I was straight but had bi-curious tendancies - in no way did I believe I was gay though

this seems to be the main thing these files do: help you *believe* that you are gay. Gay behaviors can follow from those beliefs, and if those behaviors bring pleasure and satisfaction, they become the reinforcement. That's my impression of what's going on here.

[Dave564]

I would need a time machine to go back and try to unpack all of this now

I definitely do not believe I'm gay - I am gay to the core.

[jr987]

I would need a time machine to go back and try to unpack all of this now

I definitely do not believe I'm gay - I am gay to the core.

Do you now believe that you were always gay, or do you believe that using these materials made that happen in your life?

[jorna]

I can see how the file can enforce/awaken gayness, but the most awkward/interesting part for me is your heterosexual part vanish too..

Like Dave...you said you were bi-curious. So what happened to your feelings for women? Did it vanish in time or suddenly very quickly? And how to feel towards women now? Don't just notice them anymore or do you still at some level get happy when you see a pretty girl? How do you look now towards the girls you liked or loved before? How do you look back at these relationships? Was it real or was it you figuring out who you are? Doesn't or didn't it feel like a lost when you didn't like girls anymore or didn't get turned on anymore..

[jr987]

I can see how the file can enforce/awaken gayness, but the most awkward/interesting part for me is your heterosexual part vanish too..

Like Dave...you said you were bi-curious. So what happened to your feelings for women? Did it vanish in time or suddenly very quickly? And how to feel towards women now? Don't just notice them anymore or do you still at some level get happy when you see a pretty girl? How do you look now towards the girls you liked or loved before? How do you look back at these relationships? Was it real or was it you figuring out who you are? Doesn't or didn't it feel like a lost when you didn't like girls anymore or didn't get turned on anymore..

While we wait for Dave to weigh in on this, I'd be curious to hear about your experience so far with this file (assuming you've been listening). Have you felt changes? Noticed changes in your attraction to women?

[jorna]

I have listened a few times, but not enough. I don't think I'm ready to let my heterosexual feelings go and therefore I don't think the file will work on me yet.

[Dave564]

I believe that when I was young, I bi-curious leaning towards straight - this file was the thing that opened me up to talking to men and being intimate with a man

When that happened - things changed gear and it was my boyfriend (at the time) introduced me to the gay lifestyle - that lifestyle change (along with the file) made me the gay man that I am today, and I'm really proud of who I am.

I don't really know when my heterosexual thoughts faded away, I would say maybe it was a slow process over 2-3 years, but I didn't realise it was happening, I didn't "think" about it because I was totally consumed with all the new things in my life - I should say that I love women, I adore them, idolise them - I see attractive women all the time and think "she's gorgeous" - I have lots of female friends, and have close relationships with them - I can (and have) kissed women (they love it) - and it feels great, but it's not sexual - women are a huge part of my life, they are friendships, and given me counsel - but arousal is just not there.

Identifying as gay is so much more than just these sexual aspects

[jr987]

I believe that when I was young, I bi-curious leaning towards straight - this file was the thing that opened me up to talking to men and being intimate with a man

When that happened - things changed gear and it was my boyfriend (at the time) introduced me to the gay lifestyle - that lifestyle change (along with the file) made me the gay man that I am today, and I'm really proud of who I am.

I don't really know when my heterosexual thoughts faded away, I would say maybe it was a slow process over 2-3 years, but I didn't realise it was happening, I didn't "think" about it because I was totally consumed with all the new things in my life - I should say that I love women, I adore them, idolise them - I see attractive women all the time and think "she's gorgeous" - I have lots of female friends, and have close relationships with them - I can (and have) kissed women (they love it) - and it feels great, but it's not sexual - women are a huge part of my life, they are friendships, and given me counsel - but arousal is just not there.

Identifying as gay is so much more than just these sexual aspects

I relate deeply to part of what you're talking about here, particularly in the following sense: I, too, see women all the time and think they are beautiful and feel very drawn to them; I have also dated women, been married twice, including to my current wife of 22 years. However, when I am alone in my own head--fantisizing (whether masturbatory or otherwise)--I feel so absolutely gay that I can't even imagine wanting to have sex with a woman ever again. It's a completely totalizing kind of experience of homosexual desire. (And I have had sex with several men, starting with a boyfriend I had back in high school, but all of that is far behind me in time; last time I was with a guy was more than 20 years ago). And so when I go out in the world, my feelings of attraction to women confuse me a great deal. And frankly, I'm not sure I really understand the difference, out in the world, between attraction and arousal. Like, am I ever really "aroused" by people I see on the street? I know that I can be very strongly *attracted* to lots of people. Mostly women, in fact. But once I get back home, I become totally gay once again. Very odd phenomenon. I think I use the files to try to flatten out that conflict. I'm not sure that has worked. But it has probably ramped up my homosexual desire beyond the already intense place that it already was!

[Dave564]

The moment everything fell into place for me was when attraction to women turned into admiration, and admiration for men turned into attraction x