Forever gay, curse forced gay and curse stroke gay.

[fireinside23]

I just listened to curse forced gay (second time to 3 days), forever gay and curse stroke gay one after another. Am I screwed? After the files I masturbated, tried with women just to see, and I was a little aroused but I didn't cum the guys I came too though. The effects from 2 days ago were still in effect so adding all of this what should I expect?

[lew897]

I think that you should expect your sexual belief buttons pushed. If you dont want to be gay, there will come a point where you are forced. Heavy amounts of submission and obedience in EMG's (and most people) files and scripts. You might like being gay because you like being told to what to do: obediently. Or the hypnosis will brainwash you into being gay for your own good. Or like most brainwashed people on here rationalize their own gayness, that you were already gay and this will only bring it out. In the end, who knows what will happen to somebody listening to a forced gay file for the first time.

[fireinside23]

Well so far there is nothing really I still like girls, I check out guys and I think he's cute and what not. I still find girls attractive and I get more aroused by women than men as of now. How long til it starts more effect?

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]fireinside wrote
Well so far there is nothing really I still like girls, I check out guys and I think he's cute and what not. I still find girls attractive and I get more aroused by women than men as of now. How long til it starts more effect[/quote]

[i]The response depends on the individual.[/i] Even if there was an "average time to beginning to work" for each file, that would be an average of many people reactions. Your reaction would still be slower or faster than that average.

I'm easy to get into trance, so a file's effects usually show up sooner than they usually do for others ... which says nothing about when a file will affect you. Listening to a file usually means you want the effects. If you are listening to a file on a dare, grow out of that idiocy. The files on this site are too effective.

It's also best to listen to only one or two files at a time. Even if different files have the same objective, the wording may interfere with another file that is meant to accomplish the same effect.

[fireinside23]

Okay that's good input. It seems to be workin a little. My arousal toward women have changed, with the fact there is no spark of arousal I still get erect but it's slower than before but I still find girls attractive on sites and real life. With gay porn or pics I get aroused instantly and I get erected right away even in fantasy it's harder to cum with girls porn or in my head so i defer to guys and that makes me ejactulate. So in other words there is a fire of arousal with guys with girls there is a tiny spark I'd have to think bout them much longer in order to cum. Even if I stopped listening completely, would the effects stop fade or increase even more to the point where I don't even get hard or even the tiniest slightest hint of arousal toward the opposite sex even with porn of pics? And more arousal, addiction mental love for men and more notice toward men?

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]fireinside23 wrote
Okay that's good input. It seems to be workin a little. My arousal toward women have changed, with the fact there is no spark of arousal I still get erect but it's slower than before but I still find girls attractive on sites and real life. With gay porn or pics I get aroused instantly and I get erected right away even in fantasy it's harder to cum with girls porn or in my head so i defer to guys and that makes me ejactulate. So in other words there is a fire of arousal with guys with girls there is a tiny spark I'd have to think bout them much longer in order to cum. Even if I stopped listening completely, would the effects stop fade or increase even more to the point where I don't even get hard or even the tiniest slightest hint of arousal toward the opposite sex even with porn of pics? And more arousal, addiction mental love for men and more notice toward men?[/quote]

Again, every individual response is ... individual. I know that's not much help.

Even if you have no spark of arousal, you can always make yourself erect and eject. Pick something and masturbate to it. With enoguh wrist action, you can make yourself erect to anything.

However, unless you quit listening to the files really soon -- like, now -- you will always and forever be turned on by guys and never by girls. That fire of arousal for guys will suffocate the tiny spark that girls make in you. Sooner or later, you're going to go with the guy's easy fire of arousal and abandon that tiny spark of arousal by a girl. It will only get easier to be aroused by guys and much harder to be aroused by girls. If it takes less than a minute to arousal for a guy and at least fifteen to thirty minutes for a girl, what sex are you going to go with? And it only gets easier with guys and takes longer and longer with girls ... sooner or later you're going to say, fuck, I'm gay! (Right now, it sounds like it's going to be much sooner to me.)

You're gonna abandon girls for guys soon. The attraction for guys won't go away even if you quit listening now.

[fireinside23]

[quote][/quote]That fire of arousal for guys will suffocate the tiny spark that girls make in you. Sooner or later, you're going to go with the guy's easy fire of arousal and abandon that tiny spark of arousal by a girl. It will only get easier to be aroused by guys and much harder to be aroused by girls. If it takes less than a minute to arousal for a guy and at least fifteen to thirty minutes for a girl, what sex are you going to go with? And it only gets easier with guys and takes longer and longer with girls ... sooner or later you're going to say, fuck, I'm gay! (Right now, it sounds like it's going to be much sooner to me.)
you're gonna abandon guys for girls soon.

1. Does it matter if I stop listening or not, or do you think this will happen even if I stop listening?
2. Do you mean release when you say "takes less than a minute for arousal"? Or do you simply mean arousal?

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]fireinside wrote
Does it matter if I stop listening or not, or do you think this will happen even if I stop listening?[/quote]

Even if you stop listening to every file now, you will still retain most (ninety-five percent plus) of your attraction to males. Your attraction to females will not ever return to anywhere near its previous level. Your attraction to females will (at most) be double the level it is now.

[quote][fireinside wrote
Do you mean release when you say "takes less than a minute for arousal"? Or do you simply mean arousal?[/quote]

I'm talking about arousal from a totally flaccid state to a totally pants-tenting "iron cock" erection. If I was talking about arousal and release, I would have used other, more precise -- and more graphic -- words. I say what I mean. If I had needed to use "that kind" of language, I would have used it.

You're so close to being 100 % gay right now that you may as well continue listening.

[fireinside23]

I'm gonna be completely honest, this is scary. I have such a urge to listen to them all again right now. Having gay sex turns me on much more. And I tested myself with a naked girl on tumblr to see how long it would take me to release and during it, I thought about anal penetration and gay sex, but I kept going not that I didn't get aroysed and erected by her but my mind took off else where and it's the same with fantasy, I can't think of straight sex for 5-10 secs at the most without averting to gay sex but
it took me 1:52 opposed to 1:22 with a gay man pic. Idk maybe the thought of sex with men will fade in time as well as the urge to listen.

[fireinside23]

And the other thing is notice women in real life just as much as before. As of right now I think I could still have sex with em maybe not but I get the electrical feeling when I see a good looking girl. idk maybe the best thing to do is wait it out and see how it goes and post it in a month or so. Although I notice girls just as much as guys. . Like yesterday I saw a girl at the beach I looked at her a good 3-4 secs. But if it was a real good sexy guy I might get a boner. But right now but cock and muscles get me hard as hell from porn pics. Girls get me hard as well but not as fast and good as dudes. I release faster with guys than girls right now. I find fantasize about gay sex more enjoyable right now. It's even tough to get hard fanasizing about straight sex let alone for a long time right now. I find deep anal penetration very arousing right now. I find sucking dick arousing and swallow arousing right now but not as arousing as penetration. I find feeling muscles and abs arousing. I find playing with boobs a little arousing right now, a spark. I find eating a girl out arousing, a spark right now. I find making out with a girl a spark of arousal. The involving girls is a spark. All guys is a fire compared to girls right now. But as I said I would turn my mental state to gay sex if I fanasized about girls, like I have earlier. I keep my state of mind with guys. If I had a hot guy come in my room id get horny and horny. If a hot girl came in here I would get a electricity feeling, a boner, aroused a little beyond a spark, but not as near as a hot guy would come in here in my point of mind right now. Like I said before gay sex is a fire of arousal and it takes 15-30 seconds to get a full boner. Straight sex is a spark it takess a couple minutes. I'm talking a very hard cock, no softness. Sorry for being so persistent on this topic.
Thanks!

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]fireinside wrote
... yadda yadda yadda ... [/quote]

You are the only person you have to convince. You are the only person who decides who (and what) turns you on ... if you are gay, straight, bi, asexual, or "other". You are the only person who can decide this. Regardless of what any other person says, you are the only person who has enough information to decide this ... and if you can't say, well, "undecided" is a valid option. Nobody else gets a vote. You have no need to convince me ... or anyone else reading these messages. Regardless of what we think or write, what others think doesn't count. The only person you need to convince is you.

Whatever you decide, you need to live with your decision. You need to respect your decision. You cannot second-guess if you made the right choice on the basis of what other people will think of your "choice". Other people's opinions don't count. Only your opinion counts.

Peace. Love. Unity. Respect. are more that just words or a clever way to end a post.

[lego]

You analyse your sexuality way too much but understandable. To me, you're pretty dang gay. Like.. YOU are gay. A little bisexual but let's be honest, if you were presented with two doors.. One with sexy women and one with sexy men.. I think you would pick the latter the way you go on about it. hehe However I'd say there is still hope for if you don't want to be fully gay forever AND that would require a lot of will. It may be hard since you have been rewired to like it better than being straight and the desire to wanting to be gay lingers in your mind a lot. Stop listening to the files. Don't listen to them ever again. Don't masturbate at all or with porn. Listen to deprogramming files and perhaps straight files but that's only if you want to. Just thought I'd offer it since no one else is because I personally believe it can be reversed as long as there is a will and that spark to go back. It also comes down to how you are thinking and believing as well I would say, like believing that you are gay and there is no chance of return is definitely a powerful message. So, are you going to go down further until that spark is completely gone and be happy loving those powerful sexy men ;P

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]lego wrote
You analyse your sexuality way too much but understandable. [/quote]

Lego,

I do this with every topic when I am unsure as well. I totally understand overthinking, overanalayzing, and then overanalyzing the meta-analysis. Though this seems bizarre to other people, it is an extremely effective way for high-level IQ people to avoid making unwanted decisions and/or declarations. When fireinside becomes intutiively comfortable with his sexuality, he will quit overanalyzing the topic ... but not until then.

As I stated in my earlier post, Fireinside's opinion on his sexuality is the only opinion that mattters. Nobody else gets a vote. Your advice on becoming straight again was helpful. There is also a Pay File on WMM that will make him purely asexual:

Asexual — $15 ☆
Link: https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?ga ... le_id=7820
This file destroys your sexuality rendering you totally asexual. Men, women, they are all the same to you as you will have no interest in sex with anyone or anything.

It is a solution. Perhaps it is not the optimal solution but it is a solution.

[Glory]

Hello fireinside

Just make it fun whatever you do and enjoy your self and all the pleasures that you can experience through your body.

Just be extra safe when coming into physical contact with people, love your self always and be knowledgeable of your self. Remember you are the king of your castle and it is your own to enjoy cherise and command.

So, any updates ?

[fireinside23]

[quote="lego"]You analyse your sexuality way too much but understandable. To me, you're pretty dang gay. Like.. YOU are gay. A little bisexual but let's be honest, if you were presented with two doors.. One with sexy women and one with sexy men.. I think you would pick the latter the way you go on about it. hehe However I'd say there is still hope for if you don't want to be fully gay forever AND that would require a lot of will. It may be hard since you have been rewired to like it better than being straight and the desire to wanting to be gay lingers in your mind a lot. Stop listening to the files. Don't listen to them ever again. Don't masturbate at all or with porn. Listen to deprogramming files and perhaps straight files but that's only if you want to. Just thought I'd offer it since no one else is because I personally believe it can be reversed as long as there is a will and that spark to go back. It also comes down to how you are thinking and believing as well I would say, like believing that you are gay and there is no chance of return is definitely a powerful message. So, are you going to go down further until that spark is completely gone and be happy loving those powerful sexy men ;P[/quote]

Thanks for your reply, I haven't checked this in a few days nor have I listened in over a week to anything. But it's not as effective as it was, Meaning I'm masterbating to girls and not going back to guys as much. It's not as arousing to masturbate to guys, but it still is. But I'm going to continue doing what I'm doing. So technically I'm making progress. Maybe it's wearing off. I hope it is. I think about girls a lot at work, never really guys.

[fireinside23]

[quote="Glory"]Hello fireinside

Just make it fun whatever you do and enjoy your self and all the pleasures that you can experience through your body.

Just be extra safe when coming into physical contact with people, love your self always and be knowledgeable of your self. Remember you are the king of your castle and it is your own to enjoy cherise and command.

So, any updates ? [/quote]
I tell you Any updates.
I came to girls last 2 days. I still check out guys arms and ass as well as girls, not exactly the same feeling tho. The thought of anal sex is still very arousing. But whenever I get back on this site all the temptations come back and sense of dick is more arousing. Idk It's just more exciting to have Amal sex and sucking dick, than having a girl riding me or eating pussy. I think it is how I control my thoughts. You know that feeling you get when you check out a good figure? Well that is not exactly there, but I still get erected when watching a hot pic. Honestly right now I feel 70% gay 40% straight. Maybe it's not done effecting or maybe it is. I still see a pretty face and get attracted to her. And a part of me is hiding the attractiveness to guys. It's all a lot to say. None the less I find cock arousing, it gets me super hard quick and I'll cum to it quick. With girls I find tits, ass, pussy not as arousing, in fact I'm losing my erection it's takes me longer to get super hard if I do in fact. I may lose my erection. Sometimes with guys too. It's real confusing tbh. But right now I find anal sex hot as hell, sucking l cock hot and gay sex the best sex right now. So at this moment I'm very horny for men. So 80% gay and 20% straight right now. It alternates tho.

[fireinside23]

Feel free to message me tho.

[fireinside23]

Okay it's not letting me send messages, just talk to me on here

[Glory]

So fireinside23,

Where would you like to go next? Being gay or submitting to a woman completely? Which makes your cock throb?

[fireinside23]

[quote="Glory"]So fireinside23,

Where would you like to go next? Being gay or submitting to a woman completely? Which makes your cock throb?[/quote]

Submitting to a women

[OxyFemboi]

[fireinside23]

[OxyFemboi]

[quote]fireinside wrote
It is the idea of being submitted to another person. But it sounds better with a female.[/quote]

I'm assuming that submitting to a female is what you're used to doing. Can you imagine submitting to a dominant male? If so, do you think that submitting to a dominant male could feel just as good?

[fireinside23]

[quote="OxyFemboi"][quote]fireinside wrote
It is the idea of being submitted to another person. But it sounds better with a female.[/quote]

I'm assuming that submitting to a female is what you're used to doing. Can you imagine submitting to a dominant male? If so, do you think that submitting to a dominant male could feel just as good?[/quote]

No I cannot. Just female

[Glory]

So fireinside23,

Women have taken your cock in the past does that mean you are now ready to give to feel complete by giving them your ass as well? Would you want to be fucked by a woman or by a man?

[DMacdaddy]

Im new to this site as of today, I'm wanting to be a regular. A little history about myself. I've had my first BI experience at 14 which I pursued further at the age 20 It then became a much larger pursuit at that point. To cut to the end, I've had experiences with many more men than women. But my sexual encounters have trippled with women than with men . I'm writing this as a point of entry. Meaning that I now begin to retrain my mind in this pursuit to have a total gay success, we'll see ?. With that said you already know where my mind and body is pointing. Sorry to bore you I will re-submit to my success or non-successes after I've had some time to view some of your files. I'm hungry for the experiences that lye before me . More later

[makemeababy]

Have been listening to forever gay for sometime. Yes it works, I am married but have recently told my wife I am gay, felt rubbish but great at the same time. I wish sargona would release more files like this maybe ones that reaffirm you are gay. Took me a while to get into trance but after a few times listening I didn't even know. So happy that I am gay and it is obvious really that boys should only like boys. Thank you

[silentassman]

It works I totally surrendered my mind to the words and I really feel like I am transforming into a cock hungry cum whore.