The forced gay success thread...

[Alien4420]

The excitement from risk-taking is pretty great but *checks porn* yeah. Not worth risking it. If you want to increase the install base I'd put in some final step. Like some recent file that made you like anal more had it so that after the second time you had anal, the curse was set. Increase desire and give suggestions that they should pursue it and if they're weak enough to do it twice or whatever, it's permanent. Then maybe we'll see fewer guys going gay because of their girlfriends.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think any of these things can lock you in after only two listens. In the case of Forced Gay, guys who have listened for a few weeks can just listen to Forced Straight and change back or stop listening and let it wear off. IIRC the guy with the girlfriend (or one of them, anyway) listened for something like a month before he realized that it was actually changing him, by the time he took it seriously it was too late and he had to leave his GF and move in with a guy. (I think in another case the GF was into it, some women seem to get off on the idea of turning their boyfriends gay . . . )

Stroke Sissy seems to be a bit more devious, for some reason even if you've listened only a few times and stop you'll end up downloading it again. You'll think it's silly and stupid 99% of the time but then you'll get horny and find yourself listening again.

I guess -- well, it's the way I feel about drinking, say, or speculation -- do we really want a risk free, Sunday school world? I know there are some people who do, they're forever trying to rid the world of cigarettes and tits, but I don't think they have very much fun.

[Dave564]

..thanks guys :)

It's been a pretty crazy past few months definitely!

Like I said in my first posts, I've always been a bit curious (or at least I think I did going back and reading it - it's hard to feel like that now!) which is why I started listening to the file.

So many other wonderful things have happened though - he has opened my eyes to so many new things - I feel like my very stale life has been rejuvenated completely - and it's wonderful.

[OutofTowner]

The excitement from risk-taking is pretty great but *checks porn* yeah. Not worth risking it. If you want to increase the install base I'd put in some final step. Like some recent file that made you like anal more had it so that after the second time you had anal, the curse was set. Increase desire and give suggestions that they should pursue it and if they're weak enough to do it twice or whatever, it's permanent. Then maybe we'll see fewer guys going gay because of their girlfriends.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think any of these things can lock you in after only two listens. In the case of Forced Gay, guys who have listened for a few weeks can just listen to Forced Straight and change back or stop listening and let it wear off. IIRC the guy with the girlfriend (or one of them, anyway) listened for something like a month before he realized that it was actually changing him, by the time he took it seriously it was too late and he had to leave his GF and move in with a guy. (I think in another case the GF was into it, some women seem to get off on the idea of turning their boyfriends gay . . . )

Stroke Sissy seems to be a bit more devious, for some reason even if you've listened only a few times and stop you'll end up downloading it again. You'll think it's silly and stupid 99% of the time but then you'll get horny and find yourself listening again.

I guess -- well, it's the way I feel about drinking, say, or speculation -- do we really want a risk free, Sunday school world? I know there are some people who do, they're forever trying to rid the world of cigarettes and tits, but I don't think they have very much fun.

I meant if sarnoga's file was more like "These feelings will become permanent if you suck a cock while you get fucked in the ass" so the user had a way out, you could get a more accurate assessment. As it stands testing the file is someone trying out a product that will completely reverse their sexuality. At least with CFG you could try CFS.

I'm sure some people will try it, but they seem more bicurious. It's just bringing out something already there. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just curious about how the file would work on a straight guy and I don't think any really straight guy would try it.

I like the alcohol comparison but it's really like the bartender offering you a drink that'll make you gay. Part of you will think you could beat it, but if you're really straight why would you risk it?

[Alien4420]

I meant if sarnoga's file was more like "These feelings will become permanent if you suck a cock while you get fucked in the ass" so the user had a way out, you could get a more accurate assessment. As it stands testing the file is someone trying out a product that will completely reverse their sexuality. At least with CFG you could try CFS.

I'm sure some people will try it, but they seem more bicurious. It's just bringing out something already there. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just curious about how the file would work on a straight guy and I don't think any really straight guy would try it.

I like the alcohol comparison but it's really like the bartender offering you a drink that'll make you gay. Part of you will think you could beat it, but if you're really straight why would you risk it?

OK, I see what you're saying.

One reason I can think of why someone would try a file like this would be a hypnofetish -- some people get off on the idea of being changed or forced to do something, I know that the whole reason I got into this stuff is that I was turned on by the idea that a woman could enslave me through hypnosis.

Another is that it just seems weird and fun. How many guys have smoked that first cigarette or passed 100 mph for the thrill? I think most of us have done stuff like that, the fun is in the risk.

But yeah, I agree that if there were some kind of out more people would probably be willing to try it, it could just be gay for two months or it could have a back out option after six months, that sort of thing. I assume Sarnoga was after the opposite effect, a file you can't wiggle out of. Anyway, I haven't tried Sarnoga's file and it would be pretty redundant at this point, but I don't need any convincing that files can turn a straight guy gay at this point, having done it myself. As long as you're a reasonably good subject and you're willing to let the file do it's thing, if you're too uptight about it you're going to reject the suggestion and come out of trance. But not just CFG but CFS and Stroke Sissy and other files as well have changed the things that turn me on like the hands of a clock. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't tried it.

[ftslave67]

I listened to Sarnoga's file and thought it was rather misogynistic.

(On girls turning their boyfriends gay)--if you play with fire . . .

It does require a willing participant (unless she's tying him up & putting headphones on)

[Alien4420]

(On girls turning their boyfriends gay)--if you play with fire . . .

It does require a willing participant (unless she's tying him up & putting headphones on)

IIRC someone and his girlfriend were challenging one another to listen to files . . . and it was his turn, and she said "Try this one" . . . and he didn't think it would work but ended up turning gay and leaving her.

Can't find the thread but I remember reading it right after I'd listened to CFG for the first time and wondering what I'd gotten myself into, LOL.

[PeppermintT]

(On girls turning their boyfriends gay)--if you play with fire . . .

It does require a willing participant (unless she's tying him up & putting headphones on)

IIRC someone and his girlfriend were challenging one another to listen to files . . . and it was his turn, and she said "Try this one" . . . and he didn't think it would work but ended up turning gay and leaving her.

Can't find the thread but I remember reading it right after I'd listened to CFG for the first time and wondering what I'd gotten myself into, LOL.

I thnks its this one.
http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1910&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[ftslave67]

Well, I still think it's an open question--how much is due to hypnosis, and how much is "just life" or getting to know yourself. Note that before he listened to CFG, he already had the screen name "sissyboyoxford", and had listened to "curse stroke sissy".

[Alien4420]

That's it. What an amazing thread!

[Alien4420]

Well, I still think it's an open question--how much is due to hypnosis, and how much is "just life" or getting to know yourself. Note that before he listened to CFG, he already had the screen name "sissyboyoxford", and had listened to "curse stroke sissy".

Yes, I noticed the sissy name when I looked at the tread, didn't know about stroke sissy. So you're right, the example isn't at all clear cut.

OTOH, I've been around for a long time and a) was never turned on by the male body and b) was grossed out by seeing guys together etc. Not to mention that things that used to turn me on don't work anymore. I can feel Forced Gay start to wear off gradually when I don't listen it, can feel myself become gayer when I do. I listened to part of Catgirl's Go Go Girl Bubble file the other day, and last night was turned on for the first time in my life by the thought of being humiliated by having people know I'm a sissy. Forced Straight made me really want to lick pussy (it's back to yuck now, LOL), Mistress Seductra made me want to be a shemale, Mind Mistress made me want to suck cock . . . And these aren't things you can make a conscious decision about, you can try this or that but it's either going to turn you on or not, you can't just tell yourself "I'm going to be turned on by men" or "I'm going to be turned on by crossdressing" because you won't be.

It's not that I never tried, I struggled for many years to change my sexuality, I was basically into bondage and fetishes and I was anxious to expand my range because I was so dependent on that stuff that it interfered with my ability to form relationships. I'd tried being regular straight, I'd tried being regular gay, I'd tried every kink that doesn't carry a sentence. I'd seen two psychologists and a sexologist with no results whatsoever.

So on a personal level, I have no doubt any more that hypnosis can change your sexual response the way stops change the timbre of a pipe organ. Not in every case, I suspect, there's pretty solid scientific evidence that genetics can play a role in homosexuality and there has to be a willingness on your part to stay in trance, but in many. It's not something that I would have believed even six months ago.

[ftslave67]

It's not that I never tried, I struggled for many years to change my sexuality, I was basically into bondage and fetishes and I was anxious to expand my range because I was so dependent on that stuff that it interfered with my ability to form relationships. I'd tried being regular straight, I'd tried being regular gay, I'd tried every kink that doesn't carry a sentence. I'd seen two psychologists and a sexologist with no results whatsoever.

Lol--been there (struggle)--although I wasn't really trying to change, just hoping it was a phase and would pass (thanks, Catholic church). It really brought me peace of mind to just accept it. Maybe you weren't ready for a relationship or maybe you don't really have a "problem" that a psychologist can "cure" or just haven't met the right person yet. Maybe you just like to keep things experimental and interesting.

[Alien4420]

Lol--been there (struggle)--although I wasn't really trying to change, just hoping it was a phase and would pass (thanks, Catholic church). It really brought me peace of mind to just accept it. Maybe you weren't ready for a relationship or maybe you don't really have a "problem" that a psychologist can "cure" or just haven't met the right person yet. Maybe you just like to keep things experimental and interesting.

I think a lot of my problem is that I was shy, and in pre-Internet days I had no idea how common this stuff was. So when a relationship got to the point where it was time to do something I'd get cold feet and back out, leaving the woman feeling spurned and rejected because she didn't know why I had, and that only made things worse . . . I have friends who are as weird as I am who did better, I know that they felt kind of uncomfortable about broaching it with women but they did anyway.

Anyway, after listening to Forced gay, I was sexually attracted to people without anything offbeat for the first time in my life. Not that I'd mind doing some weird stuff, but if it's optional for me I think it makes things a lot easier since I don't have to worry that I'm going to be rejected because of it. Also, I don't know how guys are yet, but I've noticed that women react much more positively if you can say "Hey, want to try this?" than if you say "I need to do this to have sex." Even if I know they're into it themselves!

[ftslave67]

Good points--it's really about the communication. And using tact and having respect for your partner.

[macdaddy]

I'm sure some people will try it, but they seem more bicurious. It's just bringing out something already there. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just curious about how the file would work on a straight guy and I don't think any really straight guy would try it.

I like the alcohol comparison but it's really like the bartender offering you a drink that'll make you gay. Part of you will think you could beat it, but if you're really straight why would you risk it?

Hello OoT

I have to tell you I listened to the file by mistake - see my earlier post in this thread:

http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6058&highlight=

I was pretty damn straight at the time I first mistakenly listened to CFG. I had been bi-curious once, years earlier in my life - and actually tried to have gay sex...and was totally grossed out by the attempt - not turned on at all - limp noodled - when I was faced with making out with a real live male. The fantasy was much hotter than the reality - I realized I had NO physical attraction to men and so I walked out on the encounter and forgot about the fantasy.

Now I am up and down all the time...I have not listened to CFG for over 2 months I think - but I still cannot get hard over a woman. And I constantly crave cock.

Latest symptom of my changing sexuality:

I went to a strip club a few weeks ago to see if I could get aroused by a lady and one of the dancer's got all over me - I know she actually liked me and was not faking it. In the private room she let me eat out her sweet butthole...mmm, luved doing that - but I was not aroused at all when she pushed her pussy into my face. I ate her - but clinically - and never got hard all night. She even french kissed me deeply several times - and told me that she had never done any of this this before at the club - she had only been dancing about 6 months; that her boyfriend had taken her virginity and that I was the first one to really turn her on besides him. She gave me her number and practically begged me to call her after she got off work. And I didn't tip her much at all, actually pretty badly - that was the give away.

After leaving I went home that night and fucked myself with a nice big rubber dick while watching gay porn movies on the 'net. I literally exploded when I came - most intense orgasm yet.

Dating and having real sex with a sexy female dancer was actually my number one fantasy up until CFG changed me, and I had the reality in my hands. It is so perversely, humiliatingly hot to know I turned her down cold and instead had a mind blowing orgasm using a rubber dick while watching two guys do a hot 69.

[OutofTowner]

I'm sure some people will try it, but they seem more bicurious. It's just bringing out something already there. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just curious about how the file would work on a straight guy and I don't think any really straight guy would try it.

I like the alcohol comparison but it's really like the bartender offering you a drink that'll make you gay. Part of you will think you could beat it, but if you're really straight why would you risk it?

Hello OoT

I have to tell you I listened to the file by mistake - see my earlier post in this thread:

http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6058&highlight=

I was pretty damn straight at the time I first mistakenly listened to CFG. I had been bi-curious once, years earlier in my life - and actually tried to have gay sex...and was totally grossed out by the attempt - not turned on at all - limp noodled - when I was faced with making out with a real live male. The fantasy was much hotter than the reality - I realized I had NO physical attraction to men and so I walked out on the encounter and forgot about the fantasy.

Now I am up and down all the time...I have not listened to CFG for over 2 months I think - but I still cannot get hard over a woman. And I constantly crave cock.

Latest symptom of my changing sexuality:

I went to a strip club a few weeks ago to see if I could get aroused by a lady and one of the dancer's got all over me - I know she actually liked me and was not faking it. In the private room she let me eat out her sweet butthole...mmm, luved doing that - but I was not aroused at all when she pushed her pussy into my face. I ate her - but clinically - and never got hard all night. She even french kissed me deeply several times - and told me that she had never done any of this this before at the club - she had only been dancing about 6 months; that her boyfriend had taken her virginity and that I was the first one to really turn her on besides him. She gave me her number and practically begged me to call her after she got off work. And I didn't tip her much at all, actually pretty badly - that was the give away.

After leaving I went home that night and fucked myself with a nice big rubber dick while watching gay porn movies on the 'net. I literally exploded when I came - most intense orgasm yet.

Dating and having real sex with a sexy female dancer was actually my number one fantasy up until CFG changed me, and I had the reality in my hands. It is so perversely, humiliatingly hot to know I turned her down cold and instead had a mind blowing orgasm using a rubber dick while watching two guys do a hot 69.

Now you're a good candidate for Curse Forced Straight. It'd be really interesting to see if something like that could get you back to thinking gay sex was gross again.

And I completely understand the hypnofetish angle. Having your behavior changed because of hypnosis. I'm considering Seductra's obedience program because I've never really been a sub before and I think it's hot that hypnosis could change me that way. To be honest, I think it's hot that some of you were really forced gay without completely wanting to be and now can't change back. But as hot as that is, it's just not worth risking giving up pussy and not being able to get that lust for it back.

It does require a willing participant (unless she's tying him up & putting headphones on)

There's an idea. If someone was actively resisting while listening would the file work?

[ftslave67]

Or perhaps arrange for someone to "prank" you by putting it on a loop while you're asleep?

Apparently the lure of hot gay mansex is just too powerful for guys to want to change once they start!

[hypnomeister2]

I haven't actually listened to the file for about a year myself, I only had about two weeks of listening to it about two years ago, then was on and off again (more off than on) up until a year ago.

I mean, I didn't listen to it every single day. But before listening to it even once I was repulsed by the thought of gay porn and such. But after listening to it for awhile, I was dreaming about gay sex, day dreaming about gay sex. I was completely attracted to cock and buff men.

I can't imagine what it's like for the guys who listened to it every single day for months on end. After listening to this file just a little bit, I am changed forever. I am not gay anymore, but I am a little bi now, usually I'm not attracted to guys, but the cock, I love as much as I do pussy. Shemale porn is my new fetish now, but it's not my exclusive type, it has to be a very feminine looking Shemale with a nice cock. Sometimes I just get this urge to look at gay porn also, but that's very rare. Generally I will look at your standard straight porn nowadays. And to go on, I even get the urge to listen to the file again. This file is freakin' powerful. I think the cock obsession is due mainly to file's focus on it.

So to summarize after listening to the file for a couple weeks every other day or so, and then every couple weeks for a year, I went from being straight to being completely gay, then when I stopped I went from being completely gay to being mainly straight with an equal attraction to cocks and pussy, but I would only ever at this point have a relationship with a woman, I do want to eventually have a family with my own children. But one of them hot shemales from porn, I would totally suck him/her off :drool

But as hot as that is, it's just not worth risking giving up pussy and not being able to get that lust for it back.

For quite awhile after I last listened to the file it was the opposite for me. As completely straight, you are slowly changing, and you DON'T WANT TO. The last thing I actually wanted was to have women be unattractive. But once the file made it so women don't really do anything for me, it was the exact opposite, I did not want to go back to being straight. I wanted to have buff men with nice cocks be attractive, it just felt natural to me. The idea of giving that up was unacceptable at the time, and disturbing, just as much as losing attraction to women was.

Now I am tempted to listen to the file again. Damn. Even now it's difficult not to just listen to it, but everytime I download it, I just delete it.

[Alien4420]

Now you're a good candidate for Curse Forced Straight. It'd be really interesting to see if something like that could get you back to thinking gay sex was gross again.

I've done that and so have several others. The answer is yes, but if you've been listening to CFG for too long the two files conflict and you end up listening to CFG again (it has a suggestion that makes you listen again if you "slip" and get interested in women).

It does require a willing participant (unless she's tying him up & putting headphones on)

There's an idea. If someone was actively resisting while listening would the file work?

I kind of doubt that you could hypnotize someone in a frontal assault. I do know that if you've decided to listen to CFG it will eventually break down a certain amount of resistance, when I was first listening I was in a light trance and I would reject the parts about not liking women but after many listenings the suggestions won, the moment you let down your guard they get into your head and screw with you . . .

I did see a web page once by a post-op dominatrix who ties guys up and then makes them listen to hypnosis files that make them become shemales who like men, but her subjects had volunteered and she used some heavy-handed techniques like blackmail to keep them on the straight and narrow.

OTOH, I gather it's pretty easy though to hypnotize people through subterfuge, found this interesting thread:

http://www.hypnothoughts.com/forum/topics/can-you-force-someone-into

I worked with a guy once who got fired for telling women at work he would hypnotize them to stop smoking and telling them to masturbate instead, LOL.

[Alien4420]

Or perhaps arrange for someone to "prank" you by putting it on a loop while you're asleep?

Apparently the lure of hot gay mansex is just too powerful for guys to want to change once they start!

LOL well you know the interesting thing is that when I tried listening to Forced Straight I didn't want to give up gay sex and then when I listened to Forced Gay again I didn't want to give up straight sex again either! Which just made me miserable, lol, since each of the files said you had to give up the other.

[Alien4420]

For quite awhile after I last listened to the file it was the opposite for me. As completely straight, you are slowly changing, and you DON'T WANT TO. The last thing I actually wanted was to have women be unattractive. But once the file made it so women don't really do anything for me, it was the exact opposite, I did not want to go back to being straight. I wanted to have buff men with nice cocks be attractive, it just felt natural to me. The idea of giving that up was unacceptable at the time, and disturbing, just as much as losing attraction to women was.

That's exactly what happened to me. It seems that whatever I want at the time, I don't want to give up. Which is one of the reasons these sexual preference files are so powerful? I mean, when I was trying to turn straight again one of the main things that kept me from doing it was that I didn't want to give up being gay, I knew in my head that I should change back, but emotionally, I didn't want to give it up.

I'm thinking that this is one of the reasons psychologists are so seldom successful at altering sexuality, and also, based on everybody's experience with these files, that it may be a lot more possible than we assume. Room for abuse, sure, I cringe at the thought of "helpful" parents pressuring their kids to turn straight, but what if you could hypnotize a pedophile into wanting sex with adults instead?

[Dave564]

Guys, I always said right from the off that while I considered myself 100% straight, I had always had curious thoughts - and it's just that I had never acted on them, I wasn't daring enough - and it was as simple as that really.

I should add that also I think people are missing the point a bit if they think this is all about sex, it's simply not true.

Of course, there's no doubt about the fact that we do it and that I do now enjoy gay sex, but what I really enjoy is the feeling of closeness and intimacy with another man - it's something that's had an overwhelmingly positive effect on my well being, and of course having my eyes and mind opened enough to embrace a completely new lifestyle - it's been just totally fabulous.

It's also been the first thing that seems to have shifted me out of the depression I've been feeling the last 3 years.

[ftslave67]

Dave, thanks for posting your story here--you're an inspiration!

I think I got cruised last week at the CD racks at Barnes & Noble, but I didn't realize it 'til later. It was a Sunday afternoon--cute youngish blond guy leaned in front of me to pick out a CD, close enough to smell him--he smelled of alcohol a bit (perhaps a late brunch?). I didn't think anything of it, went to pay (Pet Shop Boys CD) and then noticed he had a "National Equality March" t-shirt on under his hoodie sweatshirt. I would've thought him too young for me, but who knows? Wish I'd gone back & started a conversation--could've easily asked him if he was going, etc. Oh well, next time.

[Dave564]

Thanks you're too kind :)

Interesting story, the guy sounds kinda hot (good taste in music too) - it's a shame you didn't follow it up - but I know how difficult it can be! Even now I'm not sure I'd have the confidence to start conversation with a stranger - maybe next time you will find the courage to do it!

[ftslave67]

Thank you Dave for your words of support!

[Alien4420]

I think it takes some experience, something similar happened to me at the doctor's office a few months back -- it took me a while to catch on . . .

[angelcraves]

this file has affeced me would love to talk to gay guys

[Ryan83]

Ok, so awhile back I was saying how this file damaged me, and I really feel like I screwed up by listening to it.

Well, I don't know what it is, the file or maybe my subconscious telling me that I felt this way all along. I just don't know. All I know is, I had things under control, and then something happened.

I was reading an article online and I saw this picture- I had no idea this picture would be here, I had never seen it before. But for some reason, as soon as I saw it, all of my willpower completely broke down. It's this picture with these five or six naked soccer players with their hands around their genitals, just barely covering them.

I tried to resist it- I tried SO hard. But something just broke through and I became unbelievably horny. I just couldn't help it. It was this overwhelming force, like a tidal wave of just pure attraction and pure animal desire that overcame me completely. I wanted- NEEDED- to see what was beneath those hands. It was a wild feeling.

So I don't know. That was pretty powerful, and though the feeling has subsided again (for the time being) it's still there a bit- and I don't know when it will hit me full force again.

Very odd.

Anyway, for all you newly-minted gay men (tee hee)- here's the article in case you're interested, picture included. Tell me that's not hot!
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/naked_dc_united.html

[ftslave67]

Ryan, you might find this interesting:

http://guyswithiphones.com/post/057744/

(not X-rated, just suggestive)

[Ryan83]

Ryan, you might find this interesting:

http://guyswithiphones.com/post/057744/

(not X-rated, just suggestive)

OMG are you trying to kill me? LOL Wow! God damn, I can't help it any more. I want MEN. I'm done. I'm going to listen to this file, and I'm going to be gay, and there's no turning back.

Cock...here I come. ;)

[ftslave67]

Haha--no, it's not going to kill you :)

Just think of it as "expanding your horizons"!

Nothing wrong with liking guys, and deep down you know that, don't you.

[Alien4420]

OMG are you trying to kill me? LOL Wow! God damn, I can't help it any more. I want MEN. I'm done. I'm going to listen to this file, and I'm going to be gay, and there's no turning back.

Cock...here I come. ;)

LOL, welcome to the club. I still wake up some mornings convinced I'm straight, then I see some hot guy and wham . . . At some point you just have to say "here I am" and love it, ftslave is so right. Just look at how happy Dave is!

[Dave564]

Why not give in to it Ryan? there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking men at all, in fact right now making the change has radically improved the quality of my life - and I am just utterly overjoyed with the new me :)

By the way everyone I'm moving in next week - very excited about it!

I'm also going my hair done just before - also pretty exciting lol!

Then Luke and I are going to discuss our plans for me coming out - probably going to do it on facebook.

Does anyone here have any advice or experiences they would like to share on coming out?

[ftslave67]

Dave, Good luck with the coming out! PFLAG has a lot of information that may be helpful (community.pflag.org). Also, HRC.org has good info.

Just be yourself & roll with it--you can never predict how people are going to react. But if they react badly, it's not your problem--it's theirs, basically. And sometimes people can be shocked, initially, but get over it.

[Dave564]

As of last night - I'm officially living with the new love of my life :)

Things are good!

[Serra013]

As of last night - I'm officially living with the new love of my life :)

Congrats, Dave. :)

My friend who's a girl (not my girlfriend) asked me if I would listen to a hypnofile that would make me crave pussy and not cock. I politely told her that would be against my religion, as I don't eat fish. :twisted:

[Jeshi]

Dave, Good luck with the coming out! PFLAG has a lot of information that may be helpful (community.pflag.org). Also, HRC.org has good info.

Just be yourself & roll with it--you can never predict how people are going to react. But if they react badly, it's not your problem--it's theirs, basically. And sometimes people can be shocked, initially, but get over it.

Oh yeah, it's always unpredictable, when I came out nobody had any reaction at all, some people even forgot and I had to come out to them 4 more times before they remembered.

And it took 8 months for the news to spread to anybody that actually had a negative reaction.

I guess it all depends on where you live, I'm sure you'll get a worse reaction in Kansas then in Boston.

[angelcraves]

i stopped with this file

but being drawn to it again.

just the sound of EMG makes me want to hear this file again.

[Alien4420]

As of last night - I'm officially living with the new love of my life :)

Things are good!

Dave, that's great!

[angelcraves]

yes congrats dave.

[Alien4420]

i stopped with this file

but being drawn to it again.

just the sound of EMG makes me want to hear this file again.

Heh, yeah, as you said a while back it's just going to draw you back . . . I listened to Forced Gay for two months straight so it was solidly in there when I tried to listen to Forced Straight but what's happening with Stroke Sissy is subtler, I'll go a week or two without listening then one day I'll be horny and stop caring and listen again, and each time it gets a bit stronger. So if you don't want to listen listen to deprogram all or something before you do again!

[angelcraves]

i can't

[angelcraves]

i would like to talk to gay guys or hypnotists

[ftslave67]

Dave--good for you, I'm happy for you!

What about the hair--did you go through with the coloring?

[ftslave67]

angelcraves--feel free to PM me, if you want. I'm a gay guy, not really a hypnotist.

[Dave564]

Thanks everyone so much for your support!

Things feel pretty incredible right now :)

ftslave67, I've had blonde highlights done for the moment and I LOVE them, we're going to see how I go - but I think I might go fully blonde within a few weeks :)

I "officially" came out last night, my phone hasn't stopped ringing since last night, I'm not sure what the reaction is - a lot of people are pretty confused - it's early days I guess - no one has been negative or nasty yet - 2 of my closest female friends are amazed and want to come and meet me today. My sister is the only member of my family that has contacted me and she seems to be pretty cool with it.

It's really weird - there are photos of me with Luke on facebook right now! we're kissing in some of them and I'm kinda sporting my new look \ outfits in some of them too - I hope people aren't too shocked when they see them today - Luke wants to upload videos of me LOL but I had to draw the line with that and stop him there :)

[Alien4420]

i can't

Been there, done that, LOL . . .

[angelcraves]

so heres the thing
would a gay guy listen to cursed straight.
Whyy is this so different?

[ftslave67]

Angelcraves--Good question. You mean a "forced gay" gay or a regular gay? For me, personally, I'm just not interested in even trying it--doesn't appeal to me. If someone had suggested it to me in my early 20's, I might have tried it.

[Serra013]

would a gay guy listen to cursed straight.

If a "naturally" gay guy wanted to be straight, yes, he would listen to the Cursed Straight file.

[Alien4420]

If a "naturally" gay guy wanted to be straight, yes, he would listen to the Cursed Straight file.

It also works to reverse Forced Gay, but only if you haven't listened to Forced Gay for too long -- if you have you just end up listening to Forced Gay again, at least that's been my experience and that of some others.