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PostPosted: November 25th, 2011, 8:14 am
by Ryan83
So...earlier this week I found myself fantasizing about women. So apparently my attraction to women is still there, at least somewhat. I really need to quit this file before it completely destroys my life.

PostPosted: November 25th, 2011, 2:00 pm
by Alien4420
Shamrock25 wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I'd better turn back now while I can, and just never listen to the file again. Easier said than done, but I don't want to risk my relationship over this. Do you think I'll just eventually go back to normal and always be turned on by women? Or will I have to listen to something to try to correct it? I didn't think I would be effected at all this long after listening, TBH. But it happened.


If you haven't been listening for too long, it will wear off on its own. I'm not really sure whether it's better to just do that or to listen to the undo. The undo may be safer, because it should undo the compulsion to listen again. I suggest you do both mornings and evenings for a while so it doesn't sneak back, if it does, you may find yourself listening to CFG again.

PostPosted: November 25th, 2011, 2:09 pm
by Alien4420
Ryan83 wrote:So...earlier this week I found myself fantasizing about women. So apparently my attraction to women is still there, at least somewhat. I really need to quit this file before it completely destroys my life.


Oh, yeah, it's always there, just repressed. It can be turned on just like the gay stuff can be. Weirdly, I went back to listening to Forced Gay for about a week as well as a couple of Miss Squidgy files, and guess what? My attraction for women came back! Weird, no? For about a week, only I was totally bi, I could do it both ways. That's the only time that's happened for more than a day or so since I first listened to Curse Forced Gay.

Then, yesterday, I felt was gay again, and again today.

I've given up trying to figure out what's going to happen.

PostPosted: November 26th, 2011, 3:45 am
by Ryan83
Reading some of the earlier posts in this thread has made me really hot. I'm going to listen again in a few minutes, probably a few times.

Maybe at some point it will grab a hold of me to the point that I don't WANT to turn back and that will be that. :)

PostPosted: November 26th, 2011, 4:19 am
by qv
Ryan83 wrote:Reading some of the earlier posts in this thread has made me really hot. I'm going to listen again in a few minutes, probably a few times.

Maybe at some point it will grab a hold of me to the point that I don't WANT to turn back and that will be that. :)


Dammit Ryan you've been over this before. It sounds good until it doesn't. Just learn to deny your impulses.

...in any case, I have a theory for why people would switch so often. Say, for example, that there is a heterosexual man... with a hypnosis fetish. He likes accepting hypnotic suggestions, etc. But he is quite certain, even subconsciously, that he wants women, not men (before you go around slamming this, it's a hypothetical, please).

And say he listens to CFG... and he gets awfully horny thinking about the power that hypnosis can have. Does have. So his mind accepts the suggestions, because it's very pleasurable to do so.

But then, wait a minute. It also wants women. It doesn't want to concede that point, so CFG takes hold only to revert. Except, the compulsion to listen again is still there, so he does it again, getting really horny over being hypnotized to be gay (because that means hypnosis is hella powerful), then reverting before it gets too far.

So...flipflopping. Happens all the time with the mind; conflicting desires. The main distinction here is that the desire might not be being gay, per se... it might just be giving yourself over to hypnosis. Which would explain the power of the pull, but the apparent lack of stability.

...just a theory, don't mind me

PostPosted: November 26th, 2011, 8:50 am
by Alien4420
From what I've seen and experienced, there are two things going on:

- The subconscious is actively being reprogrammed. This doesn't happen instantly. Old programming sometimes leaks through. And, as you say, where there's a conflict, the brain tries to flip-flop. I experienced that vividly when I tried listening to Forced Straight. It's like an optical illusion, where you see first one possibility, than another. My hypothesis is that we have an evolutionary tendency to test both ideas out. With time, the more successful idea prevails. Then you'll be gay or straight, or some other solution, e.g., bi.

- There's a conflict between the libido and the ego. When we're horny, the sex drive is in charge. When the horniness goes away, the ego and superego are in charge. So two parts of your mind want different things, and because of the cyclical nature of the sex drive they're in charge at different times. I see Ryan is experiencing this as I did. I think he's also marching to the tune of CFG, which says that you'll regret terribly not being able to have sex with women. I usually suggest that people edit out that suggestion because it creates just this kind of dissonance.

I do think based on my own experience that it isn't the sex itself. What turns us on can be reprogrammed easily enough. Rather, it's the new sexual desires that drive this. The subconscious initially doesn't want to give up its heterosexual desires and later it doesn't want to give up its homosexual ones. I think this makes sense because in humans sex has more than a procreative function: it's the drive that bonds men to women and it evolved in our species to enslave us to the pair bond. So it makes sense that the conscious mind would have little ability to change it, and limited ability to withstand it. It's better at putting sex on hold temporarily -- I suspect that the early hominid that tried to have sex while being attacked by a lion didn't contribute much to the gene pool. This ability to put sex on hold can never work for long. To genuinely change, you have to use trance, and the subconscious is going to do its best to prevent that.

My take on it, anyway.

PostPosted: December 15th, 2011, 1:22 am
by AlanH26
sfierrens wrote:I've been a lifelong crossdresser and dated only woman but I've always known somewhere in the back of my mind that my sexual relationships with woman just weren't right. Too many times with too many women I fumbled through sex knowing I didn't satisfy them.

About 5 years ago I started listening to CFG and it was like a spark went off in my mind. Allowing myself to fantasize about men and their delicious bodies was mind opening. I listened to CFG, Sarnoga's , MsJ, and bandler's files and I found they spoke to my soul.

I now fully accept myself as gay. A month ago I went on my first date with a man. I was nervous beforehand but once we were together everything seemed so right and natural.

So thank you to the wonderful authors here who helped me come to terms with my true self.



What a lovely story.

I'm glad that you've found your true self :)

PostPosted: March 1st, 2012, 7:55 am
by jim1
Hello

my name is jim and im 30 years old straight. I have decided to give this file a try im curious if it will have any effect on me ,im curious but dont want to be gay forever haha.

I hope 1 time isnt dangerous hehe what do you think ?

thanks

PostPosted: March 1st, 2012, 11:20 pm
by ftslave67
Hi Jim, Welcome!

I don't think anyone can say for sure what effect the file will have on you. The question you should ask yourself is "what effect do you want it to have"?

PostPosted: March 3rd, 2012, 4:16 am
by jim1
im just curious thats all :)
I just want to see if i will feel anything at all from 1st listen

PostPosted: March 8th, 2012, 8:55 pm
by tjgtrd
I just started listening to this yesterday... its crazy how it already is affecting me, nagging at me to listen to again and again...

Jim

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 4:43 pm
by brconfused
I would say that you want it to affect you, otherwise you wouldn't listen to it. there are many files you can listen to "to see the effect." This is a gay curse file so it is not to be listened to lightly.

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 11:51 am
by tjgtrd
Now ive been listening to this file for four days. I watch gay porn afterwarads. Surprisinly after two days I had a hard erection watching it... I felt uncomfortable with what i was watchting though and did not masturbate. I switched to straight porn to cum... Now im wanting to masturbate to the gay porn while i watch it. The desire for women is still there but its actually already diminishing as my desire to be with a man increases slightly

PostPosted: March 12th, 2012, 7:24 pm
by tjgtrd
listening to this twice a day and while i sleep... im addicted to it. I went from about a 3 out of 10 attraction to men to maybe a 6 now... i've cum to full gay porn multiple times and not come to a woman or straight porn in a few days, and so far dont have the desire to.

new listener

PostPosted: June 21st, 2012, 2:28 am
by samhash
I have tried the cfg file out once tonight and allowed myself to relax and listen all the way to the end. I really like the file and found it really relaxes me. I have never been with a guy before sexual, so i wonder if the file will cause me to try it out one day?[/u]

PostPosted: June 21st, 2012, 4:49 am
by Korusi
You realize of course that even considering it is a step right? You already have the urges - you just need to bring them out; and I hope you'll tell us all about it and keep us up to date.

PostPosted: June 23rd, 2012, 8:49 pm
by samhash
I think that the file has a nice flow to it and makes me feel real nice. The voice starts to relax me right away and I find it easy to just listen to the words and relax. I am not sure if any changes have occured in me, but i have only listened a couple times. I am going to listen a couple more times tonight and see how I feel when it is over. Are there any signs that I can look for to see if the file is starting to work on me?

PostPosted: June 25th, 2012, 11:59 pm
by samhash
Trying this file again :D

PostPosted: June 26th, 2012, 4:07 am
by samhash
Feeling real good about this file right now. I have been thinking about men in a sexual way and have not been fealing guilty about it. I feel like the guards i used to put up are coming down and i am more open to the image of men kissing and sucking each other. Feels really good i hope it will last.

PostPosted: June 27th, 2012, 4:04 am
by Korusi
Well that's actually the goal of the file... So it sounds like it's working nicely on you. I would like to welcome you on the road to homosexuality and hope you do enjoy the effects.

I think that's your proof it's working for you.

Feel free to describe more; I know everyone enjoys and eats it up. I do.

PostPosted: June 27th, 2012, 9:06 pm
by samhash
I am glad that the file has made me feel more open, i am not sure if it will result in me trying to have a real life experience or not? I like that the file makes me feel like i could enjoy a same sex experience.

PostPosted: June 28th, 2012, 12:21 pm
by Korusi
You never know until you try *wink*

PostPosted: June 29th, 2012, 12:48 pm
by Christina74
I have listened to this file and others like it with noticeable results. I ended up deleting all my files months back and have since pursued a heterosexual relationship with a girl. She's sexy and really into me but lately I have been getting the urge to start listening to this file again.

She is very attractive and gets me hard no problem. I will likely lose my virginity to this girl and I'm excited - and yet part of me wants to mess with it all and experiment. Could this file prevent me from getting harder with my girlfriend? Could I really lose my attraction?

Soo tempting to plunge back in.

PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 11:13 am
by Alien4420
Christina74 wrote:I have listened to this file and others like it with noticeable results. I ended up deleting all my files months back and have since pursued a heterosexual relationship with a girl. She's sexy and really into me but lately I have been getting the urge to start listening to this file again.

She is very attractive and gets me hard no problem. I will likely lose my virginity to this girl and I'm excited - and yet part of me wants to mess with it all and experiment. Could this file prevent me from getting harder with my girlfriend? Could I really lose my attraction?

Soo tempting to plunge back in.


Christina, it will eventually stop you from getting hard with your girlfriend. It makes you exclusively gay and unable to perform with women and after you've been listening for a few months it's hard to undo. So I'd refrain from listening unless you want to be completely gay.

PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 12:10 pm
by Kitten85
Alien,
Having listened to this file and become gay, how long would you say it takes?I'm already bi and I just want to lose my attraction to women altogether. Since I'm already attracted to men would it shorten the time it takes for the file to take complete effect?

PostPosted: July 4th, 2012, 7:17 am
by ftslave67
Jorans: I'm curious about why you want to change your apparent orientation. (It's OK if you don't want to say)

My Story

PostPosted: July 4th, 2012, 11:06 am
by sb2yu
I'm a male in my 50s, married.
Started to listen to CFG several months ago when i first started listening to files. I listened to several kinds but seemed to stay with CFG more than the others. I listened to it several times over a few weeks maybe 20x over the weeks. Then i stopped listening to any files for several months.
One day i got back on WMM and the first file i started listening to again was CFG, that lasted for about 3 weeks of really almost every day at least once a day listening, then i stopped again.
Oh yes i seem to go deeper and deeper with every listen and more able to relax while listening.
Well its now 3 weeks after not listening and the last 2 days I've been listening up to 4 times a day and could do more, it almost like an obsession.
I want to listen as much as I can.
WOW things have changed at least in my mind about sex.
I guess my question is , What have I done and What do I do now?
Any comments or suggestions woulds be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

PostPosted: July 4th, 2012, 1:21 pm
by Korusi
ftslave67 wrote:Jorans: I'm curious about why you want to change your apparent orientation. (It's OK if you don't want to say)


If you read his journal you may find that it's crossing the line of no return; he's enjoying it.

PostPosted: July 4th, 2012, 10:11 pm
by arron
well i been doing it for a 8 weeks now im contianly honry i allways seem to be watching gay porn videos a hell of alot its hard right now to not think about gay sex right now i will keep posting on here to keep u updated

PostPosted: July 5th, 2012, 6:46 am
by ftslave67
"hard to not think about gay sex"--well, the great thing about that, is that you don't have to! (not think about gay sex)--you can think about it all you want!

PostPosted: July 5th, 2012, 9:16 am
by jim1
So far i have listened it about 10 times in a month. What i feel is that im thinking about cocks not all the time but yes its in my mind.

Also i watched some gay pornos and i went a little hard but i still getting hard with women as well

PostPosted: July 6th, 2012, 9:08 am
by ftslave67
Probably *best* NOT to think about it (cock) all the time. But it is *nice* to think about it some of the time!

Listening

PostPosted: July 6th, 2012, 6:28 pm
by sb2yu
Not sure I have to listen for a few days now,
While out today every "Good Looking Female" I saw all I kept thinking was that she doesnt have a cock.
The guys are looking better and better all the time.
I think CFG has me and will do what it wants now...

I did it

PostPosted: July 16th, 2012, 8:15 am
by sb2yu
Well I did it after months of on and off listening CFG did it to me .
After a weekend out golfing this morning i was thinking about sex with my wife...we haven't had sex in years...all i thought was she doesn't have a cock and I just chuckled.
Went to a cruising site thought Id click on a gay vid. WOW and when i did I got the biggest hard on Ive had in years when looking at cock. Im not sure if i want to try sex with my wife but i know i want a cock.
Did CFG finish me off?
Thanks

PostPosted: July 16th, 2012, 10:56 am
by bostonmarc
Only you can determine that one. However if you put yourself into some situations where you might test it out you may get your answer. Try going out some night to a gay bar and see how you feel. See if you still feel the same way you do when watching porn at home. And of course let us know how you make out :wink:

PostPosted: July 17th, 2012, 12:30 pm
by Myaccount
I am in a strange situation I am 29, and I always had problems with apathy, and anhedonia (even before I had entered puberty) I used to not enjoy mb, and I did it very seldomly but things had changed, few years ago I would mostly watch futa, and I did listen to cock worship hypnosis, and since about 2 months my enjoyment of mb had increased allot I now moan when mb just 3 months ago I wouldn't watch even amateur porn with sound on because moaning was irritating to me. I got very curious about sucking a real cock, and I did start to enjoy yaoi (I would never expect myself to be interested in anything romantic before) but I got turn off by male faces. In past I was thinking that I am straight because female faces look very nice but I am not attracted to females I had only kissed with females, and it did nothing for me I did pass on opportunities to have sex, and I was indifferent when they were trying to flirt with me so then I was thinking that I am just too apathetic to want sex, and relationships.

I did think about sucking off one of my friends when I was a teenager but they were just troughs without any actual craving for cock that I can feel now.

I don't know what to do is there any way to make myself find attractiveness in male faces? I find everything else attractive. Well I do find few males attractive some of the most cute ones, and some crossdresers but I am put off by 95%+ of male faces, but female faces drive my attention. I am not interested in romancing or having sex with females.

As for the topic file I did listen to it once but it doesn't seem correct for my problem. I did listen to forced straight just out of curiosity but I was just thinking about cocks.

Also thinking about being gay makes me feel happy, and little excited. I was hoping that this is a sing that my apathy got lover overall but I am not so sure about that. I spend all my days on PC I don't even play games or watch much TV/Movies because nothing excites me so part of me thinks that I am maybe just making it all up, and exaggerating as I wasn't able to find any cure for apathy [and psychologist/psychiatrist are useless, at least they were fair to say that they can't do anything more (but I did know that at that point anyway)]

I did end up with schizoid personality diagnosis. Sorry for going little off topic but I think that those background informations are relevant.

PostPosted: July 18th, 2012, 12:59 pm
by Alien4420
Kitten85 wrote:Alien,
Having listened to this file and become gay, how long would you say it takes?I'm already bi and I just want to lose my attraction to women altogether. Since I'm already attracted to men would it shorten the time it takes for the file to take complete effect?


As I recall, it took about a month for me to start feeling the effects, and over the next couple of months they accelerated. It happens a bit at a time. Even now, more than three years later, when I listen to it (which I do only occasionally) it makes me a bit gayer each time.

But I'm not sure how to translate that into what will happen to you since you're already bi, that could speed things up some because there's less resistance to overcome. I can tell you though that attraction to women seems to be one of the last things to go, in fact, I still get flashes of it, but I've listened to some bi files so again it's hard to extrapolate.

If you want to help things along, you might add in Miss Squidgy at some point, it makes you seriously limp around women. One warning -- if you're like me, you'll still be hit sometimes by the attraction, but when you try to do anything about it the suggestions will kick in and you'll go limp.

PostPosted: July 18th, 2012, 1:03 pm
by Alien4420
Myaccount wrote:Well I do find few males attractive some of the most cute ones, and some crossdresers but I am put off by 95%+ of male faces, but female faces drive my attention.


Myaccount, for several of us, male faces were just about the last thing to happen. I think part of that is that Forced Gay only tells you that you'll be attracted to male bodies, not that you'll be attracted to male faces. Even now I'm more attracted to guys with softer, feminine features than to guys with craggy faces or bear types. Fortunately, a lot of gay guys fit that description. Also, it does seem to change with time, just gradually.

PostPosted: July 18th, 2012, 11:12 pm
by Myaccount
Alien4420 wrote:
Myaccount wrote:Well I do find few males attractive some of the most cute ones, and some crossdresers but I am put off by 95%+ of male faces, but female faces drive my attention.


Myaccount, for several of us, male faces were just about the last thing to happen. I think part of that is that Forced Gay only tells you that you'll be attracted to male bodies, not that you'll be attracted to male faces. Even now I'm more attracted to guys with softer, feminine features than to guys with craggy faces or bear types. Fortunately, a lot of gay guys fit that description. Also, it does seem to change with time, just gradually.


It didn't start with Forced Gay to me, many people that are into futa have the same problem, and there are people that are only into shemales. Maybe it isn't that uncommon in ancient Greece young males were the the most valued sexually, and many people are bi-curious in they teens (because most masculine futures on face had yet develop?) but that could have more explanations obviously.

btw. did somebody did forced gay light? I can't find it.

PostPosted: July 20th, 2012, 12:53 am
by jim1
After 13 days of continuous listening im thinking about cocks all the time even without wanting it but i still have an urge for women. For example i saw a friend of mine yesterday and thought instantly omg how big will be his cock.

I dont know what to do , continue or stop listening because doesn't want to affect my life completely, when i say i will stop listen something tells me to listen again and again and i feel i cant stop it

PostPosted: July 20th, 2012, 5:27 am
by bostonmarc
After listening to CFG for well over a year now, I feel qualified to make this statemtent, at least about myself anyway. What I found is that if you don't want to lose your attraction to women you will not lose it. Now in my case what I wanted was to add the male side of the equation and not lose the female side, and that seems to be what has happened.

There is no doubt that I now have an attraction to men. As one of our other writers mentioned it took more time to develop an attraction to mens faces or get over the image of men kissing, but that does come in time. Now Gay porn is more appealing than straight but I still get hard to staight porn, and I just got back from a cruise and believe me therre were hot women and men on that ship.

So I have looked at it more as adding the gay or bi side and not losing the females attraction complelety. I think it has more to do with intention than any other factor. So if you continue to listen what is your intention? Get clear on that and enjoy listening, CFG is a wonderful file and adding the attraction to men is so hot.

Another way to look at it is why leave anyone out? 50% or so of the population is men and the other is women look how your odds have just increased!! :D

PostPosted: July 24th, 2012, 6:05 am
by Deltona003
Hey guys, this is my first post on WMM. I have been reading about this Cursed Forced Gay file for a while now and I have to say it is very tempting to give in and try it fully. I have listened to it about 5 times but I feel that I have a hard time really getting into the trance.

I'm also very torn if I want it to work or not. I am bi but the idea of being changed by one of these files is just so tempting. This file however is such a radical change. I guess that's why I feel kinda drawn to it.

I would love to hear thoughts about this and i would defentely love to pm someone who has had this work. I do wonder for those of you it turned. Is it really permanent? That kinda makes it even more tempting to try. Not being able to EVER reverse it, even with a removal curse would make it even more appealing to me.

Well I look forward to your post and responses.

PostPosted: July 26th, 2012, 1:18 am
by AlanH26
Deltona003 wrote:Hey guys, this is my first post on WMM. I have been reading about this Cursed Forced Gay file for a while now and I have to say it is very tempting to give in and try it fully. I have listened to it about 5 times but I feel that I have a hard time really getting into the trance.

I'm also very torn if I want it to work or not. I am bi but the idea of being changed by one of these files is just so tempting. This file however is such a radical change. I guess that's why I feel kinda drawn to it.

I would love to hear thoughts about this and i would defentely love to pm someone who has had this work. I do wonder for those of you it turned. Is it really permanent? That kinda makes it even more tempting to try. Not being able to EVER reverse it, even with a removal curse would make it even more appealing to me.

Well I look forward to your post and responses.


Hi Delton.

I did the file over two years ago. Let me tell you, it is permanent.

It's great. :D

PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 2:24 pm
by sledge8891
I started nearly two years ago too and it made me gay, this file works..

PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 2:36 pm
by bostonmarc
And I a little over 16 mos and i do find myself attracted to men like never before. It does take sometime and the effects are cululative, so keep listening baby.

PostPosted: July 30th, 2012, 6:37 pm
by ftslave67
Kudos to you guys for keeping up with it. I mean that only in a positive way.

PostPosted: July 31st, 2012, 4:55 am
by bostonmarc
LOL Do you mean the writing or listening?