The forced gay success thread...

[jblanze]

Does anyone else notice they shoot way bigger loads when they cum on their face after listening to CFG? Askin for a straight friend…

[zxboy]

Does anyone else notice they shoot way bigger loads when they cum on their face after listening to CFG? Askin for a straight friend…

This friend, can he shot on my face?

[dudeee]

I have been listening to gay conversion files including CFG for 3 years now. I now only masturbate to gay porn, have had sex with multiple men, and haven't had sex with a woman since starting (largely because they are harder and more anxiety inducing to sleep with), but I don't know how to complete the process. I'm still bi, I struggle being attracted romantically to many men, but I desperately feel the need and desire to become fully gay and lose all attraction to women. Any suggestions?

One thing is I masturbate to the files while watching gay porn, I can't not listen to the files while masturbating, I tried, I get bored, and I wonder if that's preventing me from going deep enough. I am just starting to not skip the induction and I'm trying new inductions. I'm looking for a hypnotist to work on me directly. Also, maybe weed can help? I'll take any ideas. I want to be able to have a boyfriend and come out as gay and be another success story. I also wonder if I need to work through my internalized homophobia. It's really hard.

[five_throws]

I have been listening to gay conversion files including CFG for 3 years now. I now only masturbate to gay porn, have had sex with multiple men, and haven't had sex with a woman since starting (largely because they are harder and more anxiety inducing to sleep with), but I don't know how to complete the process. I'm still bi, I struggle being attracted romantically to many men, but I desperately feel the need and desire to become fully gay and lose all attraction to women. Any suggestions?

One thing is I masturbate to the files while watching gay porn, I can't not listen to the files while masturbating, I tried, I get bored, and I wonder if that's preventing me from going deep enough. I am just starting to not skip the induction and I'm trying new inductions. I'm looking for a hypnotist to work on me directly. Also, maybe weed can help? I'll take any ideas. I want to be able to have a boyfriend and come out as gay and be another success story. I also wonder if I need to work through my internalized homophobia. It's really hard.

I think that some would say that you already had success. You suggested some answers to yourself - like listening to induction, focusing instead of multitasking, internalized self-homophobia. I am doubtful weed would directly help and may be counter productive to coming to deeper realizations about yourself and what makes you tick.. But, I think one other thing is to think about why you don't want to "settle" for being bi. Why do you want to go all the way? Why do you still hold internalized homophobia? Complex questions, potentially.

[sigmund_floyd]

I don’t really know why I’m starting this post but whatever. I enjoy reading everyone else’s experiences so, let’s do it I guess.

I’ve been into dick as long as I can remember. Like flipping back and forth between hot girls and bulges in JC Penney catalogues in the 90s type situation.

I’ve hooked up with a lot of guys and girls over the years. Currently married to a woman.

Big cock is just so good. I’ve always been into it. But it’s super nice to get dicked down by EMG when I throw on CFG. Anyhoo. PMs open

[jr987]

I have been listening to gay conversion files including CFG for 3 years now. I now only masturbate to gay porn, have had sex with multiple men, and haven't had sex with a woman since starting (largely because they are harder and more anxiety inducing to sleep with), but I don't know how to complete the process. I'm still bi, I struggle being attracted romantically to many men, but I desperately feel the need and desire to become fully gay and lose all attraction to women. Any suggestions?

One thing is I masturbate to the files while watching gay porn, I can't not listen to the files while masturbating, I tried, I get bored, and I wonder if that's preventing me from going deep enough. I am just starting to not skip the induction and I'm trying new inductions. I'm looking for a hypnotist to work on me directly. Also, maybe weed can help? I'll take any ideas. I want to be able to have a boyfriend and come out as gay and be another success story. I also wonder if I need to work through my internalized homophobia. It's really hard.

I wonder what the psychological phenomenon of "wanting to be fully gay" is really about; I certainly empathize with that desire as, I presume, everyone does who listens to this particular file in earnest. Perhaps all of the pleasure that comes from fantasizing about sex with beautiful men--and occasionally having that in real life--could be seen as a reasonable payoff for all the time spent with the files. If you find that you are still attracted to women out in the world, maybe you could just enjoy and embrace that too. I'm trying to stay in touch with that myself. But I do want to repeat that I really do understand; feeling totally gay when you're home alone and then robustly bisexual out in the world can feel like a frustrating mismatch. Like sand in the gears.

Meanwhile, if you want new audio files for masturbation (since you seem to need them or you get bored (some might call that addiction...)), try out the erotic audio files by Tara Smith (just Google it). She has some really beautiful narratives in which she spells out graphic arguments in which she insists that the listener is gay because, for example, he "needs cock to cum" and that sort of thing. If you haven't listened to her already, she will open up a whole world of homosexual delights for you!

[kyroc]

I wonder what the psychological phenomenon of "wanting to be fully gay" is really about; I certainly empathize with that desire as, I presume, everyone does who listens to this particular file in earnest. Perhaps all of the pleasure that comes from fantasizing about sex with beautiful men--and occasionally having that in real life--could be seen as a reasonable payoff for all the time spent with the files. If you find that you are still attracted to women out in the world, maybe you could just enjoy and embrace that too. I'm trying to stay in touch with that myself. But I do want to repeat that I really do understand; feeling totally gay when you're home alone and then robustly bisexual out in the world can feel like a frustrating mismatch. Like sand in the gears.

Internalized biphobia combined with a perceived or subconcious need to overcorrect from an otherwise heteronormative lifestyle, if I had to guess. Bisexuality still unfortunately carries a lot of undeserved scorn tied to it, and I'd imagine for some people it's easier to lie to themselves (and prospective partners) that they're a gold star gay and that any past heterosexuality was just a phase. Not saying any of that's right or healthy, just that I've seen it in people from time to time.

[jr987]

Internalized biphobia combined with a perceived or subconcious need to overcorrect from an otherwise heteronormative lifestyle, if I had to guess. Bisexuality still unfortunately carries a lot of undeserved scorn tied to it, and I'd imagine for some people it's easier to lie to themselves (and prospective partners) that they're a gold star gay and that any past heterosexuality was just a phase. Not saying any of that's right or healthy, just that I've seen it in people from time to time.

That seems to me like a not-unreasonable explanation, though I'm not sure it rings true for me personally. I don't feel at all biphobic; if I am I'm not aware of it, and I don't see any reason that I should be. I've been aware of my own bisexuality for about 40 years (since, probably, the first time I masturbated and realized that boys in my class made for great fantasies!), and I don't recall ever feeling uncomfortable with it, even though it was the very homophobic 1980s... Likewise, my first--and often concurrent--sexual relationships with girls and boys didn't make me at all uncomfortable, though I am now coming to realize that I sometimes had performance issues with girls that I don't remember having with guys... Hmmm...

I think for me it's that my intense desire for homosexual sex makes me wish that more of my attractions out in the world were to men, and fewer to women, because of my sense that a relationship with a man would lead to much greater sexual pleasure than I'm likely to achieve with women. At the same time, my romantic inclinations seem to be toward women, and so it feels like whichever kind of relationship I have will be missing something. I will either find romantic happiness with an attractive woman or sexual bliss with a beautiful man, but maybe never both with either. (As a powerful test case: I am very happily married to a woman, and deeply connected to her romantically. Very fortunately for me, when it's my turn to get off during sex, she is always willing to talk to me in graphic terms about gay sex. I can't really have an orgasm without that. I'm guessing that's true for many or most of the guys on this thread...)

[throwitawaynowrp]

Starting this file. I'm straight but I've got a pretty big submissive streak, and that means online it's just easier to sub for men. Still, I've never actually been attracted to men's bodies. Now someone thinks I should be, and has ordered me to listen to this file daily. I'm somehow both skeptical it'll work and a little nervous for what happens if it does work. Guess I'll find out!

[outkast1728]

@throwitawaynowrp let me preemptively welcome you too the LGBT+ community

[throwitawaynowrp]

Haha, jumping the gun a little, don't you think?

I listened to it for the first time today. It was hot sitting down and listening, but I don't think I properly got into trance. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

[zxboy]

Haha, jumping the gun a little, don't you think?

I listened to it for the first time today. It was hot sitting down and listening, but I don't think I properly got into trance. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

Was the same way as you once dude.
Keep listening and you’ll join us and it’s amazing. I was straight and more submissive and now I’m gay and submissive and it’s way easier and better.

[Glasnerven]

Haha, jumping the gun a little, don't you think?

I listened to it for the first time today. It was hot sitting down and listening, but I don't think I properly got into trance. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

Based on the reports on this thread, if you keep listening to it daily, I expect that it won't be long before you're happily gay.

[outkast1728]

Indeed Glass, anyone wanna place bets on how long it'll be before he trades up?

[Glasnerven]

I bet he has a Grindr account within two weeks.

[throwitawaynowrp]

Haha, this file is that powerful, huh?

Not sure what I'm doing wrong then. I wasn't able to listen yesterday but did listen today. Still not noticing any effect, but I'm also not quite feeling like I'm properly dropping into trance when I listen to it.

[dickdodger69]

You’re story has been told by so many others on this site as well as experienced by so many of us. It takes more than a couple of times listening before the file starts to take effect. When it does you will know it. Soon enough you will be on your knees begging a well hung gay top to let you service him.

[mikethedonnie]

Debating giving this file a shot again, kind of lost interest last time but want to give it a fair chance. Would love some encouragement. Dm me or add me on discord mikethedonnie#8830

[warren101]

@throwitawaynowrp It took almost 7 months for me to become truly gay. For most of the guys on here it was at least a month and more like 2 months. Keep listening and it will happen.

[zxboy]

@throwitawaynowrp It took almost 7 months for me to become truly gay. For most of the guys on here it was at least a month and more like 2 months. Keep listening and it will happen.

Yep took me just over 2 months
And now I crave cock and cum

[jace13]

Going to start at the beginning on this one, so bear with me: I stumbled upon CFG years ago when I was in undergrad and very shortly I was hooked. I still kept an interest in women, but my interest in cocks grew until I was going to the local bathhouse for some anonymous sucking, but I never went any further than that. Over the years I've maintained a pretty balanced interest in women, even had a girlfriend for a time, but still kept an interest in cocks. Then covid happened and that ended, leaving me alone with just my thoughts, and my old urges. I would fall into some occasional CFG use. Some popper hypno vids. And now that we're through it, I can't get my mind off cocks and the "further" I never got to when I was younger. I've been thinking a lot about that and what the last push is that I need to go seek out what I'm craving. I see a lot of "they all come back to CFG eventually" on this thread, and as I type this I'm probably going to cue up the file. Not sure if I'm looking for support, or encouragement, or validation. Just felt like I needed to put this out there.

[midwestcuriousm]

Been a long time since I gave an update so thought I'd so so again. I have gone through what seems to be a relapse of sorts... My interest in listening to CFG and related files seemed to wane and fell out of the habit of listening much for a while. And about a month ago I discovered thinking more about and getting off to women and heterosexual sex again. After being totally into trans and gay porn for quite a while it was a bit of a surprise. This went on for a month or so I think, but in the last few weeks I've found myself drawn to trying to listen to the files more - and once again my porn interests have swung back trans and guys.

Attraction to mens faces has continued to be a stubborn nut to crack, and it seems to be only rare instances when I find a guys face attractive... It seems that's probably what has prevented me from meeting anyone. Now that I'm getting back into listening to the files more again I'm curious if that might finally change!

[midwestcuriousm]

So, after writing that fairly pessimistic post a few days ago I felt compelled to post a follow up... Something happened today that was unlike what I've felt before, but similar to what others have described has happened to them. I had to meet and chat a bit with a guy where I work, but who I don't normally have any reason to have any contact with and don't really know. Today though I felt a genuine strong attraction and desire as we were talking. I had a flash in my mind wondering what he looked like with his clothes off (which I'm betting is good lol), how his ass and cock would look, and yes attracted to his face too. I get the impression he could at least be bi, if not into guys outright, nothing flamboyant about it but definitely something there that makes me wonder. And I could totally see myself experimenting and fooling around with him. And yes I started getting hard too, but glad it wasn't apparent with my clothing lol - and stayed hard as I was walking away and for several minutes after as I kept thinking about him and what just happened. This definitely goes far beyond the kind of in person reactions I've had to any other guys previously. So maybe I was premature feeling pessimistic before and I really am continuing to evolve and progress even if the progress is slow

[zxboytoy]

So, after writing that fairly pessimistic post a few days ago I felt compelled to post a follow up... Something happened today that was unlike what I've felt before, but similar to what others have described has happened to them. I had to meet and chat a bit with a guy where I work, but who I don't normally have any reason to have any contact with and don't really know. Today though I felt a genuine strong attraction and desire as we were talking. I had a flash in my mind wondering what he looked like with his clothes off (which I'm betting is good lol), how his ass and cock would look, and yes attracted to his face too. I get the impression he could at least be bi, if not into guys outright, nothing flamboyant about it but definitely something there that makes me wonder. And I could totally see myself experimenting and fooling around with him. And yes I started getting hard too, but glad it wasn't apparent with my clothing lol - and stayed hard as I was walking away and for several minutes after as I kept thinking about him and what just happened. This definitely goes far beyond the kind of in person reactions I've had to any other guys previously. So maybe I was premature feeling pessimistic before and I really am continuing to evolve and progress even if the progress is slow

This is so great to hear, and hot. Glad you finally joined us

[outkast1728]

Did i not call it @midwestcuriousm welcome to the fold cocksucker

[Glasnerven]

We all called it. Say hi to your boyfriend for us, midwest!

[midwestcuriousm]

Haha - I'm not sure I consider myself to have fully joined all of you yet, since I still have not had the pleasure of being with another guy sexually, but the degree that I was turned on the other day when I wrote that last post did feel significant and like a kind of milestone. I've been thinking about it all weekend, and thinking of him, which more often than not arouses me again. Thoughts of sucking each others cocks, kissing, and spreading his ass apart to fill it with my cock are all thoughts that come into my mind when thinking of a few days ago. I'm really curious if I'll start having those kinds of realizations more often and about more and different guys - or maybe my intense reaction a few days ago was just a one off instance? Time will tell I guess, I I wish I could figure out a way to have more contact with him to feel him out whether something more might be possible!

[zxboy]

Haha - I'm not sure I consider myself to have fully joined all of you yet, since I still have not had the pleasure of being with another guy sexually, but the degree that I was turned on the other day when I wrote that last post did feel significant and like a kind of milestone. I've been thinking about it all weekend, and thinking of him, which more often than not arouses me again. Thoughts of sucking each others cocks, kissing, and spreading his ass apart to fill it with my cock are all thoughts that come into my mind when thinking of a few days ago. I'm really curious if I'll start having those kinds of realizations more often and about more and different guys - or maybe my intense reaction a few days ago was just a one off instance? Time will tell I guess, I I wish I could figure out a way to have more contact with him to feel him out whether something more might be possible!

So you become a top? Most of us have become bottoms

[midwestcuriousm]

An as yet aspiring top, yes... I know that goes against what most guys experiences have been, but that's just how I've felt ever since the idea of playing with a guy started to form in my mind. Not that I rule out trying to bottom if it feels right and in the right moment sometime... Actually the idea of having a partner I could switch up with regularly is fascinating and a turn on in its own way. I definitely feel and see myself in a more masculine rather than submissive way though, and the kind of guy I'm more likely to be attracted to is more of the twink type, maybe with a bit of a feminine streak as well.

[zxboy]

An as yet aspiring top, yes... I know that goes against what most guys experiences have been, but that's just how I've felt ever since the idea of playing with a guy started to form in my mind. Not that I rule out trying to bottom if it feels right and in the right moment sometime... Actually the idea of having a partner I could switch up with regularly is fascinating and a turn on in its own way. I definitely feel and see myself in a more masculine rather than submissive way though, and the kind of guy I'm more likely to be attracted to is more of the twink type, maybe with a bit of a feminine streak as well.

Have to say that is hot.
I’d love to find someone who use to be straight like myself and turned. Let him use me like a sex doll, haha.

Damn I’m more muscular then twink :/

[Nakedcub]

Hey all, I posted awhile back to say I was going to listen to this file, I'll say, I am a now a turnee. The beginning was like any other, watching and looking at gay porn to see how things would change, I'll say I was always a little bi-curious before I started listening. I noticed little changes a few weeks after listening, after a month I was pretty much into the men and the bodies and cocks of the men, mostly in porn, it took a month for me to eventually start checking out men IRL. I am not into men romantically, I am more into men sexually, I am not into their faces really either, but I am more into their bodies and cocks for sure, I love seeing men naked, or if I see a man walking around shirtless, I will say to myself that's a nice body. It seems to me I have become the kind of gay the file suggests I would be.

When it comes to women, I am indifferent, the file never made me disgusted with women as it suggested. I have no desire however, to be romantically involved with women because most my relationships with women never last more then 4-5 months or so. I see a woman naked, I just see something I do not sexually desire, I can't get hard to women at all anymore, and that's fine by me. I am not disgusted when I see a vagina, I just see something I no longer desire and could care less if I never get it again.

When I look at naked men and gay porn, and when I'm with a man physically, it's totally a different feeling. I have been with a few men since I noticed my transformation. Watching men in gay porn is hot, seeing their bodies, cocks and cum is so hot, actually getting sex is a thousand times better. It just feels so right and natural for me to be with men sexually. While I am not romantically into men, nor am I really into their faces, it's the act of the sex that's hot, wanting their body over me as i have my knees to my chest as they are fucking me and are over me, the body heat of a man over you, the grunts and groans, that's what gay sex for me is about, feeling a dick inside you, giving in to your primal, animalistic instincts of just straight up fucking is the best.

I don't feel shame as the file suggests I would, I feel like I'm doing something that is totally natural for me to do, and that should be natural and right for me. While I'm not into men romantically, I love making friendships. Being around men more then women, hanging out with the guys takes on a whole new meaning to me. My personality didn't change as the file would suggest, I still feel like myself, my hobbies and interests are still the same, I don't "act" or "feel" gay, or feminine, I am still my normal masculine self, the only thing the file did was take away my desire to have any physical, sexual connection and replaced that with men. Forming friendships with men is something I do desire more, hanging out with the guys like I said, even if they are platonic and non sexual friendships, I definitely feel more connected to men in a way I never thought I would. Hope you enjoyed my conversion story

[pegasus554]

Hello all. I have been lurking here for some time now and have read every post I can find on the subject. I find all of your stories fascinating and admire how so many offer up advice and encouragement. I am interested in the reasons why some of you have willingly taken the plunge into hypnosis to turn from straight to gay. Has it been a good thing for all or have some had negative experiences? Are there any that wish to be straight again or is everyone convinced that they made the right decision? I know "Your mileage may vary" as far as time frame depending on how often you listen, how susceptible you are etc., but what is the quickest someone has made the full conversion from straight to absolutely gay. I have always considered myself bi, and have only had maybe a dozen gay encounters (all enjoyable). My first was by accident more or less. I was in a video booth and took a peek through a glory hole. I almost got poked in the eye by a beautiful, huge, black cock. It was almost hypnotizing in itself. The next thing I know it was in my mouth. I was married to my first wife at the time, but she was shut down sexually. The entire time I was working that cock I was asking myself, "What do you think you are you doing?" But I couldn't stop. Now that I am in yet another sexless marriage (what is it with women that fuck you crazy until you are married?) and have discovered hypnosis, I am thinking that maybe I need to expand my horizons. Like so many others on here on WMM, I love cocks but have not as yet been attracted to the man attached to it. I have been listening to various files, paid and free, trying to find one that fits me. I have always been a top with women, but I find that the submissive role with "cocks" (especially BBC's) was exciting. So congratulations to all of you "turnees" that have "Cum" before me and please share how long it took you until you feel that you have completely turned. I apologize if I got too long winded here.

[pegasus554]

Hello all. I have been lurking here for some time now and have read every post I can find on the subject. I am interested in the reasons why so many of you have willingly taken the plunge into hypnosis to turn from straight to gay. Has it been a good thing for all or have some had negative experiences? Are there any that wish to be straight again or is everyone convinced that they made the right decision? I know "Your mileage may vary" as far as time frame depending on how often you listen, how susceptible you are etc., but what is the quickest someone has made the full conversion and turned from straight to absolutely gay. I have always considered myself bi, and have only had maybe a dozen gay encounters (all enjoyable). My first was by accident more or less. I was in a sexless marriage with my first wife (her issues) at the time. I stopped at an ABS to check out some porn. I was in a video booth and took a peek through a glory hole. I almost got poked in the eye by a beautiful, huge, black cock. It was almost hypnotizing in itself. The next thing I know it was in my mouth. The entire time I was working that cock I was asking myself, "What do you think you are you doing?" But I couldn't stop, I loved it. I never saw the man attached to it. Now that I am in yet another sexless marriage (what is it with women that fuck you crazy until you are married?) and have discovered hypnosis, I am thinking that maybe I need to expand my horizons. Like so many others on here I love cocks but have not as yet been attracted to the man attached to it. I have been listening to various files, paid and free, trying to find one that 'fits' me. I have always been a top with women, but I find that the submissive role with "cocks" (especially BBC's) was exciting. So congratulations to all of you "turnees" that have "Cum" before me. Please share how long it took you until you felt that you had completely turned. I apologize if I got too long winded here.

[sigmund_floyd]

Well. Shit. It’s honestly been months since I last listened to the file. It’s all kind of snuck up on me, and I think I might actually be gone at this point. I cannot jerk off to women at all online. I have zero interest in straight porn. I’ve dabbled with sniffies but am too scared to go Grindr. Haven’t pulled the trigger on anything but been extremely close while tipsy. When sober I’m sneaking off to the bathroom and jerking it to guys on Chaturbate multiple times daily and trying my damndest to get models to engage after a few drinks. And I can’t fuck my wife. I didn’t mean to take it quite this far and am unsure what to do. But definitely feeling the gayest I’ve ever felt.

[warren101]

@sigmund_floyd Judging from my experience with CFG you are gone. Now it just remains for you to hook up with a man. For me I love sucking a cock. I have actually read all of the postings on the forced gay thread. I only found one man that was not affected by the file and one that hated being gay. So enjoy your new role and that is also for all of the others that are now starting to change over to gay. Enjoy.

[sigmund_floyd]

@sigmund_floyd Judging from my experience with CFG you are gone. Now it just remains for you to hook up with a man. For me I love sucking a cock. I have actually read all of the postings on the forced gay thread. I only found one man that was not affected by the file and one that hated being gay. So enjoy your new role and that is also for all of the others that are now starting to change over to gay. Enjoy.

There was a deprogram file mentioned years ago here that I’d like to give a shot. I think the EMG file has knocked down some societal barriers that were more or less “programmed” into me since forever that I think is a healthy thing. But I’d like to kind of do a deep flush to figure out what is me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years.

[sigmund_floyd]

Had a few drinks and about to go hound some dick for now though lol

[jr987]

There was a deprogram file mentioned years ago here that I’d like to give a shot. I think the EMG file has knocked down some societal barriers that were more or less “programmed” into me since forever that I think is a healthy thing. But I’d like to kind of do a deep flush to figure out what is me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years.

Hi @sigmund_floyd, I was intrigued by your idea of experimenting with a deprogram file after getting such "good" results from CFG. I wonder if you did this, and what the effect was. If you haven't done it yet, I'll say that if I were you I would *not* do that. In an attempt to learn what's really "me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years," I think I would just step away from the file a little bit and let time do its thing. Not only am I a little suspicious of deprogram files (a piece of paper is never the same after its been drawn on, even if the drawing is erased), but I'd want to enjoy the effects of CFG as long as they hang around. You already know that some part of you is genuinely desiring men (or at least gayness, which seems to be slightly different than just loving guys); you wouldn't have listened to the file in the first place if that weren't true. My guess is that deprogramming would simply result in more confusion, whereas time may just help you mellow into a nice bisexual place where you can still enjoy cock, gay porn, etc., without worrying about whether it's really "you." Anyway, I'd love to hear if you tried it and what the effect was, if you did. (My $.02, anyway. I could be totally wrong...)

[jr987]

I wonder if anyone has a thought about this: I have loved this file, but I don't understand why hypnosis in the service of loving men more has to be "forced" or a "curse." I resist those words when I hear them, and it creates a distraction from trance. I wish I had the equivalent file but with positive affirmations that loving men is a beautiful thing, and a fulfillment of a very healthy desire. Wonder what others feel about this.

[Glasnerven]

I've wondered something similar: why all the emphasis on how "dirty" or "filthy" or "nasty" with sexual things? Why the slurs and insults in shifting someone to be gay or a sissy or suck cock or whatever? Why can't we be encouraged to change or grow in sexual ways and have it be regarded as a *good* thing? What's bad about two people coming together to enjoy each other and share pleasure?

[Maleko7]

Perhaps the 'forced' and 'nasty' and other derogatory words are meant to act like 'don't think of an elephant'. Your mind may say 'that is dumb, of course gay sex is great, and I can prove it".

[jr987]

I've wondered something similar: why all the emphasis on how "dirty" or "filthy" or "nasty" with sexual things? Why the slurs and insults in shifting someone to be gay or a sissy or suck cock or whatever? Why can't we be encouraged to change or grow in sexual ways and have it be regarded as a *good* thing? What's bad about two people coming together to enjoy each other and share pleasure?

I'm glad to hear that at least one other guy feels the same way! I guess what we're talking about is a little unfair to ask of a site dedicated to BDSM, mind control, etc. I do get that some guys like to be called "faggot" and that sort of thing; I have liked that myself sometimes. I can appreciate how that gets under the skin in an erotic way, amplifying the sense of "deviance" from the norm. But I've also sometimes wondered whether words like "curse" and "forced" might be a bit dangerous. I don't want to suck cock because I've been forced to, and I don't want my unconscious to be thinking that that's why I'm doing it. I want to do it as an expression of my own will, informed by intense desire. I use this file (and others like it online) to amplify that, not humiliation. That's not my cup of tea, though no judgement towards anyone who likes that.

[jr987]

Perhaps the 'forced' and 'nasty' and other derogatory words are meant to act like 'don't think of an elephant'. Your mind may say 'that is dumb, of course gay sex is great, and I can prove it".

You might be right, though I think in the BDSM context the humiliation itself is a big part of the point. But if it has the effect that you describe, then so much the better! It is great, and many of us have long since proven it to ourselves!

[sigmund_floyd]

There was a deprogram file mentioned years ago here that I’d like to give a shot. I think the EMG file has knocked down some societal barriers that were more or less “programmed” into me since forever that I think is a healthy thing. But I’d like to kind of do a deep flush to figure out what is me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years.

Hi @sigmund_floyd, I was intrigued by your idea of experimenting with a deprogram file after getting such "good" results from CFG. I wonder if you did this, and what the effect was. If you haven't done it yet, I'll say that if I were you I would *not* do that. In an attempt to learn what's really "me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years," I think I would just step away from the file a little bit and let time do its thing. Not only am I a little suspicious of deprogram files (a piece of paper is never the same after its been drawn on, even if the drawing is erased), but I'd want to enjoy the effects of CFG as long as they hang around. You already know that some part of you is genuinely desiring men (or at least gayness, which seems to be slightly different than just loving guys); you wouldn't have listened to the file in the first place if that weren't true. My guess is that deprogramming would simply result in more confusion, whereas time may just help you mellow into a nice bisexual place where you can still enjoy cock, gay porn, etc., without worrying about whether it's really "you." Anyway, I'd love to hear if you tried it and what the effect was, if you did. (My $.02, anyway. I could be totally wrong...)

I have not yet, no. I confirmed there is a specific removal file for Cursed Force Gay available for $50, but I’m not ready to pull the trigger. I’m also not sure it’s necessary after a couple of recent events.

1. I’ve been listening to Curse Masturbation Penetration a lot. It’s supposed to make you feel like you have a cock in your mouth when you stroke with your right hand, one in your ass when you stroke with your left, and both mouth and ass when using two hands. Don’t get me wrong; it’s hot as fuck while listening, but it’s obviously just a fun experience that doesn’t actually “work.” It reframed Cursed Force Gay for me. The file didn’t make me gay. It’s not forcing me be gay. It’s really hot and fun because I already was very into it. It definitely inspires me to act more on my urges, but that’s just because I’m giving into them and being more accepting of them. I chose to. It’s no more real than the faint temporary feeling of having imaginary dicks tag teaming me. This is just me.

2. My wife has been losing her hotness a bit over the past couple years. I’m really picky physically. I haven’t mentioned it because I know she’s working hard not to, but age gets us all to some extent eventually. I went to a very impressive brestaurant yesterday. All of my desire for women came raging back, and I had some very fun thoughts running though my head. The in person nature of it was awakening. With Covid and life in general, I haven’t physically been around a lot of smoking hot girls lately, and porn is just not the same. You miss out on the reality of their sexiness. It’s still intoxicating to me.

Bonus thought. The best thing about guys is how well we age. Cocks are so hot, and they stay that way forever mostly. Women fall apart. I’d never fuck a 60 year old woman, but I wouldn’t hesitate to get dicked down by a hung 60 year old man. I’ve done a few times lol

[sigmund_floyd]

I've wondered something similar: why all the emphasis on how "dirty" or "filthy" or "nasty" with sexual things? Why the slurs and insults in shifting someone to be gay or a sissy or suck cock or whatever? Why can't we be encouraged to change or grow in sexual ways and have it be regarded as a *good* thing? What's bad about two people coming together to enjoy each other and share pleasure?

I'm glad to hear that at least one other guy feels the same way! I guess what we're talking about is a little unfair to ask of a site dedicated to BDSM, mind control, etc. I do get that some guys like to be called "faggot" and that sort of thing; I have liked that myself sometimes. I can appreciate how that gets under the skin in an erotic way, amplifying the sense of "deviance" from the norm. But I've also sometimes wondered whether words like "curse" and "forced" might be a bit dangerous. I don't want to suck cock because I've been forced to, and I don't want my unconscious to be thinking that that's why I'm doing it. I want to do it as an expression of my own will, informed by intense desire. I use this file (and others like it online) to amplify that, not humiliation. That's not my cup of tea, though no judgement towards anyone who likes that.

I think there are some that are less humiliating if I’m remembering correctly. Train series maybe? I don’t mind it. Definitely get turned on by being called a “faggot” in spite of being not cool at all with using that word myself and ripping into people when I hear it used in a true derogatory manner.

One of my favorite hook ups. I’m doing a car cruise thing with a random guy. He had really thick dick, and I was going to town on it with my mouth. He said, “Are you gay?” I said I wasn’t as I came up for air. He laughed really hard, pushed my head back down, and said “I think you’re wrong about that. You work that dick like a hungry little faggot.” My goodness.

[jr987]

1. I’ve been listening to Curse Masturbation Penetration a lot. It’s supposed to make you feel like you have a cock in your mouth when you stroke with your right hand, one in your ass when you stroke with your left, and both mouth and ass when using two hands. Don’t get me wrong; it’s hot as fuck while listening, but it’s obviously just a fun experience that doesn’t actually “work.” It reframed Cursed Force Gay for me. The file didn’t make me gay. It’s not forcing me be gay. It’s really hot and fun because I already was very into it. It definitely inspires me to act more on my urges, but that’s just because I’m giving into them and being more accepting of them. I chose to. It’s no more real than the faint temporary feeling of having imaginary dicks tag teaming me. This is just me.

2. My wife has been losing her hotness a bit over the past couple years. I’m really picky physically. I haven’t mentioned it because I know she’s working hard not to, but age gets us all to some extent eventually. I went to a very impressive brestaurant yesterday. All of my desire for women came raging back, and I had some very fun thoughts running though my head. The in person nature of it was awakening. With Covid and life in general, I haven’t physically been around a lot of smoking hot girls lately, and porn is just not the same. You miss out on the reality of their sexiness. It’s still intoxicating to me.

Your assessment of what's happening with this kind of hypnosis seems right to me. It's likely that it's influencing our attitudes and behaviors (more likely to be receptive to gay sex, and more likely to go looking for it), and probably unlikely that it's changing something fundamental about us. I have had the same experience as you: for certain reasons--work, changes in habits due to the COVID thing, etc.--I am out in the world somewhat less. It's easy to start thinking that all of my thoughts about cock (and I do have tons!) are all there is. But then I'll go out into the world, a grocery store or whatever, and I'm amazed how sexy I still find women. Obviously, my "straightness" has not been destroyed, even as all of my private thoughts and fantasies when I am at home are about men...

[jr987]

One of my favorite hook ups. I’m doing a car cruise thing with a random guy. He had really thick dick, and I was going to town on it with my mouth. He said, “Are you gay?” I said I wasn’t as I came up for air. He laughed really hard, pushed my head back down, and said “I think you’re wrong about that. You work that dick like a hungry little faggot.” My goodness.

I started having anonymous gay hookups a long time ago. There used to be gay movie houses in nyc where you could cruise and give blowjobs with very little effort; I don't know if they still exist or not--I'm guessing that things like Grindr have made them obsolete, but don't really know. (I started going to them in, like 1989 (I'm probably lucky to be alive, considering that AIDS was everywhere in the gay community then)). In any case, I never thought there was any conflict between my ostensibly straight life at work, in college, etc., and being called a faggot, on my knees with a cock in my mouth, in the dark shadows of the city. I didn't think "faggot" was degrading, I just thought it was a good description of me! But, of course, I know that that term has been used to inflict much pain on people, and I abhor that.

Still, I do question whether words like "curse" and "forced" might be kind of unhealthy. I have found myself hearing these words in the file and wondering if I need to be careful. Pretty unclear to me what the long term effects might be of hearing words like that over and over while in trance...

[Glasnerven]

I don't want to suck cock because I've been forced to, and I don't want my unconscious to be thinking that that's why I'm doing it. I want to do it as an expression of my own will, informed by intense desire.

Same here. If I end up sucking a dick, I want it to be because I really want to suck an dick and I'm enjoying the experience.

[warren101]

I do not want to alienate anyone, however here are my thoughts on forced and curse. Forced into something with hypnosis is a fetish. For instance I was and I still am very heterosexual. I have always needed women and I still do. My fetish was to be forced into sucking a cock. CFG seemed to be the ideal file for me. It took 7 months to get me to suck a cock. I loved it and I continued for about 3 months. I stopped listening and now CFG has worn off and I have not had any desire to suck a cock and my desire for women is just as strong as ever. And I think that the curse is a marketing ploy. Most curse hypnosis files start around $20 and they tell you to get rid of the curse, you will need to buy my $50 file.
Before I started CFG I went back and read all of the CFG postings. Almost everyone that tried the file seemed to become gay. There was also a lot of talk that the guys that turned gay, were already gay or were leaning that way. I personally think that you should just enjoy the file and see if it works on you. Thanks.

[sigmund_floyd]

Currently playing with Curse Cocks. For those out there who aren’t ready to give up women, this seems pretty great. It’s supposed to trick your mind into thinking every naked woman you look at has a dick, going down on them feels like sucking a dick, and fucking them feels like getting fucked. After listening a whole hell of a lot over a pretty short period, I have to say that I’m feeling it a little. Combining it with Curse Force Gay has been pretty interesting. Almost feels like I’m turning my wife into my gay lover. Not gonna lie, if this keeps getting better, it could be perfect. May even look into a custom something with the same theme but more personal.