The forced gay success thread...

[ejn0t1n]

Something interesting has been happening to me lately and I'm curious if it has to others because I havent seen this specific response.

I'm in a spot now where I see pretty women and i think damn she's hot. But then when it comes time to get aroused, nothing gets my pulse going like thinking about being with men. I only jerk off now to either gay porn or by googling hot gay men and looking at the pictures. Men can get me instantly hard. So - the attraction to women is there but it's just not worth thinking about being with them sexually. Anyone else have this happen?

I am having this happen to me as well. I see pretty girls out all the time and I am so attracted to their femininity! I am envious of their hair and bodies. I see their breasts, smooth skin, and sexy hips and I am so jealous! I find myself thinking about working on my body to try to come close to the way they look.

As far as being aroused... I naturally need to see hard cocks to get aroused. I appreciate the sexy women in porn, but I get hard by seeing the men. I never used to like looking at the men in porn. I actually would seek out women on women port just to keep from seeing the men. I am mostly the opposite now. I don't try to avoid seeing women in porn, because I love seeing feminine figures, but I totally get off to the thought of sex with men.

I actually was in a men's locker room recently and walked in the entrance way where a man was changing. He was not shy about being completely naked out in the open. I saw his full ass out with no shirt or anything on. I used to be really grossed out by something like that... but this time I thought what a nice ass he has and really wanted him to turn around so I could see his dick. That is something I know 100% can be attributed to listen to these files.

So I think I am in the same spot as you.

[Marian]

Bit OT here but you have to distinguish between sexual, romantic and aesthetic attraction. The term "gay2 aims only the sexual attraction.

Gays may find girls nice and attractive but just don't want sex with them. Many heterosexuals find a man's body beautiful, but never dream of sleeping with men.

In short, you are gay now. That you still find women beautiful don't change this fact.

[ejn0t1n]

Bit OT here but you have to distinguish between sexual, romantic and aesthetic attraction. The term "gay2 aims only the sexual attraction.

Gays may find girls nice and attractive but just don't want sex with them. Many heterosexuals find a man's body beautiful, but never dream of sleeping with men.

In short, you are gay now. That you still find women beautiful don't change this fact.

Thank you for that. I think it is important for me to read that. To acknowledge that I have been thinking about gay sex and really must want it bad to spend so much time online looking into hypnosis and files to move me closer to acting on my desires.

[JackDrago]

Smooth9 wrote;Something interesting has been happening to me lately and I'm curious if it has to others because I havent seen this specific response.

I'm in a spot now where I see pretty women and i think damn she's hot. But then when it comes time to get aroused, nothing gets my pulse going like thinking about being with men. I only jerk off now to either gay porn or by googling hot gay men and looking at the pictures. Men can get me instantly hard. So - the attraction to women is there but it's just not worth thinking about being with them sexually. Anyone else have this happen?

If you're doing Shattered Heterosexuality, you are experiencing the intermediate level of the transformation pretty much exactly as described. If you are still having attraction to females, the Heterosexuality Eraser used in the set will accelerate the loss of desire for women and heterosexual sex most of the pro-homosexual messaging is in the Shattered Heterosexuality main file and most of the anti-hetersosexual stuff is in the Heterosexuality Eraser (listed as "binaural" in the set). Once you're free of heterosexual attraction, you should be ready to move on to the more specific files in the series and make a choice about whether you want to become a Man Fucker (ie. a top), start off by going from Bi Curious to Cocksucker and decide on top/bottom issues later, or take the plunge and go Straight to the Bottom. Fair Warning: Straight to the Bottom is an incredibly powerful and addictive file and it's pretty much guaranteed to make you take it in the ass and love it.

[stryper]

Jack, I have a lot of your recordings and I love your style. I didn't like Straight to the Bottom as I'm not interested in being "sissyfied" ... I'm more of a macho guy, but would not mind penetration. I was hoping your stuff would be the trick that helps me turn a corner, but ... I'm still a work in progress. That said, something is happening as I do feel a bit more attracted to the same sex ... but still not there. I guess I need more time or maybe a stronger hypnotist ...

[JackDrago]

I will be honest and say that I saved those for the one bottom specific file because they struck me as inappropriate for the rest of the system. Shattered Heterosexuality can work with Total Bottom and Macho Sub which are much more masculinity oriented.

[stryper]

Hmm ... I'll have to check them out. As I stated before ... love your style!!!!

[stryper]

Well, something is taking hold. I have not listened for awhile, but I found myself very much attracted to a guy I met today. He was slender, had a good build and I had feelings that I have never experienced before. So, I'm definitely becoming more and more attracted to guys, but I just can't seem to act on it. He had great eyes a great face, stubble and was a good personality. It was a brief meeting, but I just can't stop having interesting feelings towards him like I'd like to spend more time with him, etc. ... kind of in a sexual way, so ... somethings working ... just not all the way yet ... I'm either going to stay in limbo or I'm hoping someday that I'll be turned. I really can't put my finger on why I have a huge desire to be turned gay ... can't say ... but it is there.

[smooth9]

Things were starting to get a little bit too intense for me so I tried taking a few weeks off. I just haven't been able to get it up for the woman in my life. I think it's been at least 3 1/2 weeks since I've listened. The thing is...I'm still not really getting aroused for women. Like I described before, I can appreciate the aesthetics of a beautiful woman, but it just doesn't get my blood pumping like a man does. I've resigned myself that when sexual urges hit, I will just need to pull up either gay porn or pics of guys and I almost instantly get aroused. Damn, as I'm typing this out I'm realizing that this must be what it's like to be gay. When it comes time to get satisfied sexually, I want to think about men. Even taking a few weeks off didn't change things. I was worried about going too far in one direction but it seems like that has now happened. It's taking every ounce of my energy to not listen to the files today. I am going to pull up some pics of hot men right now though.

[stryper]

Well, smooth9, sounds like you are either there or 90% there ... are you ever in a spot where you feel like you can act on your desires or that you can see yourself with a guy?

[smooth9]

Well, smooth9, sounds like you are either there or 90% there ... are you ever in a spot where you feel like you can act on your desires or that you can see yourself with a guy?

I could 100% see myself with a guy. The longer this goes on, the more types of guys I find myself attracted to. If I was in the right situation I think I could act on my desires. Problem is that I'm married with kids so I have to consider that in everything I do. If I were single, I have no doubt I'd be trying to get dates with men.

[stryper]

Well, smooth9, sounds like you are either there or 90% there ... are you ever in a spot where you feel like you can act on your desires or that you can see yourself with a guy?

I could 100% see myself with a guy. The longer this goes on, the more types of guys I find myself attracted to. If I was in the right situation I think I could act on my desires. Problem is that I'm married with kids so I have to consider that in everything I do. If I were single, I have no doubt I'd be trying to get dates with men.

Well ... it seems to me that you're there. All you need to do is get the experience. That you are married and devoted, that's good. It's too bad you were not free to try it out. I'm not where you are at this time. Yes, I feel very attracted to guys, but it's not as strong as your attraction and I'm not where you are. I am kind of envious in a way, but also feel for you that you are otherwise not available.

[xoddam]

Well fuck. Here we are. Some may recognize my username from way back in the threads. I’ve casually attempted to start this file a handful of times. Each time I lose steam. Each time I came back I thought not of it. I see it now. I’ve only heard it maybe 10 times? Once maybe on loop for a night but felt nothing.

I want to suck a fucking cock.

Oh god do I want it bad. After all this time and now I realize this file really really does do something. Still like many, the face is last to go and I’m still getting used to the ideas of male attraction holistically. But. I just realized about half my porn feed is cock. Some days I don’t want it - other days it’s all I want to see. I’d say about 50% there and looking on grindr. wow. Typing that is weird.

[stryper]

Well fuck. Here we are. Some may recognize my username from way back in the threads. I’ve casually attempted to start this file a handful of times. Each time I lose steam. Each time I came back I thought not of it. I see it now. I’ve only heard it maybe 10 times? Once maybe on loop for a night but felt nothing.

I want to suck a fucking cock.

Oh god do I want it bad. After all this time and now I realize this file really really does do something. Still like many, the face is last to go and I’m still getting used to the ideas of male attraction holistically. But. I just realized about half my porn feed is cock. Some days I don’t want it - other days it’s all I want to see. I’d say about 50% there and looking on grindr. wow. Typing that is weird.

Yeah, when I first typed a lot of things on this forum I thought it weird too. The file does have some affect. I have not listened for awhile, but when I do, it seems to turn me on more and more. Yeah, I watch gay porn most of the time.

Welcome to the club ...

[dickdodger69]

Well fuck. Here we are. Some may recognize my username from way back in the threads. I’ve casually attempted to start this file a handful of times. Each time I lose steam. Each time I came back I thought not of it. I see it now. I’ve only heard it maybe 10 times? Once maybe on loop for a night but felt nothing.

I want to suck a fucking cock.

Oh god do I want it bad. After all this time and now I realize this file really really does do something. Still like many, the face is last to go and I’m still getting used to the ideas of male attraction holistically. But. I just realized about half my porn feed is cock. Some days I don’t want it - other days it’s all I want to see. I’d say about 50% there and looking on grindr. wow. Typing that is weird.

I haven’t been on for a while for personal reasons, but I’m happy to see another guy on the verge. I hope you find a guy on Grinder to hook up with because once you suck a cock and swallow that nice creamy load you will be a goner. No longer will you be 50% there you shall be 100% gay and your turnee brothers will be here with open arms to welcome you to the brotherhood.

[JackDrago]

I hope you find a guy on Grinder to hook up with because once you suck a cock and swallow that nice creamy load you will be a goner. No longer will you be 50% there you shall be 100% gay and your turnee brothers will be here with open arms to welcome you to the brotherhood.

This is 100% true, especially for my gay conversion files (and, I think CFG too) the "point of no return" is acting on your homosexual impulses in real life. NOT ONE subject of my series was ever able to go back to heterosexuality after being with a man in real life.

[redhotpump]

Interesting JackDrago - no wonder I keep failing to resist - being a horny kinky male - I couldn't help try the sex before I was attracted to the face.... It always seemed like one step forward, one step backwards, but it seemed once I tried the sex, I always fail to resist no matter how much guilt and shame I had... I keep coming back wanting more.... If you haven't tried it yet, I would say, just do it, and I'm positive you will be pleasantly surprised......

[JackDrago]

redhotpump wrote:- no wonder I keep failing to resist - being a horny kinky male - I couldn't help try the sex before I was attracted to the face.... It always seemed like one step forward, one step backwards, but it seemed once I tried the sex, I always fail to resist no matter how much guilt and shame I had... I keep coming back wanting more.... If you haven't tried it yet, I would say, just do it, and I'm positive you will be pleasantly surprised......

That's why I always use Failing to Resist as the induction on my gay Conversion stuff, it has built in defeaters for resistance. It's a deep trancer, but it also has a way of making the commands in the file completely irresistible to the subject.

I have seen that file turn so many hypnosis sceptical str8 boys. It starts with "this will never work" to the next day being "I can't get it up for girls anymore." A week later he's stroking to gay porn and begging for the next file... >:)

It just feels so good to fail to resist the temptation that the ones that talk to me almost always turn.

[stryper]

Well fuck. Here we are. Some may recognize my username from way back in the threads. I’ve casually attempted to start this file a handful of times. Each time I lose steam. Each time I came back I thought not of it. I see it now. I’ve only heard it maybe 10 times? Once maybe on loop for a night but felt nothing.

I want to suck a fucking cock.

Oh god do I want it bad. After all this time and now I realize this file really really does do something. Still like many, the face is last to go and I’m still getting used to the ideas of male attraction holistically. But. I just realized about half my porn feed is cock. Some days I don’t want it - other days it’s all I want to see. I’d say about 50% there and looking on grindr. wow. Typing that is weird.

I haven’t been on for a while for personal reasons, but I’m happy to see another guy on the verge. I hope you find a guy on Grinder to hook up with because once you suck a cock and swallow that nice creamy load you will be a goner. No longer will you be 50% there you shall be 100% gay and your turnee brothers will be here with open arms to welcome you to the brotherhood.

Xoddam - if you do what dickdodger69 says and it works ... let us know ... I may follow your footsteps ... I'm not sure I'm ready yet, but we'll see.

[xoddam]

When I get the chance I’m sure it will. Had sex with my GF several times over the past few days. Although I’m not any less attracted to her, each time I’ve also spent at least part of the time imagining if she had a dick instead. I keep thinking her clit is just a little to small, and if it were bigger maybe I could suck it. I’m skeptical that this will remove heterosexual desires but it has certainly introduced homosexual ones.

[smooth9]

I think someone who was curious and reading this thread is going to think that the guys posting are embellishing their stories somewhat or kind of role playing along. Let me clearly state that is not the case. These files work. I'm beginning to accept that I'm gay and it's no joke. If anyone wants to chat through this, feel free to send me a private message. I'm trying to figure out what this means for me and would love to talk through this with someone.

[jeremyjason76]

I am visiting this thread as a listener of HeteroConversion, as I have a question and this thread appears to be much more active.

In regards to a file being addictive, like these sexuality files are supposed to be, I have been listening for about two weeks. I have never had a drive to listen to a file like I have with HC. I find myself obsessed with it, almost to the point of wanting to do solely that every day. I even blew off hanging out with friends last week to stay home and work on my change. Is this the normal "addiction", am I just being obsessive, or does it vary person to person?

[stryper]

I am visiting this thread as a listener of HeteroConversion, as I have a question and this thread appears to be much more active.

In regards to a file being addictive, like these sexuality files are supposed to be, I have been listening for about two weeks. I have never had a drive to listen to a file like I have with HC. I find myself obsessed with it, almost to the point of wanting to do solely that every day. I even blew off hanging out with friends last week to stay home and work on my change. Is this the normal "addiction", am I just being obsessive, or does it vary person to person?

Personally, for me, for some reason CFG really appeals to me. You like HC every day, I could listen to CFG every day. It depends on what you want and what you desire. For some reason, I have a desire to change and CFG really calls to me. I guess I could try HC for kicks, but, like CFG does not interest you ... HC doesn't interest me. I'm really wanting to see if this can change me. I have felt a bit of a change as I find my attraction to guys increasing and I can now see myself with a guy, but I'm not at the point where I can cross over and make it a lifestyle. So, I guess it would depend on the person, what that person wants and what turns them on. For me, it's the excitement of change. Again, I don't see myself completely changed yet and I am searching for something that will do it - maybe it won't happen for me, but yes, different files are addictive to different people - I'm no expert, but that's my take.

[jeremyjason76]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I was asking if the addiction aspect of the file manifested itself as an obsession, like a drug addiction, or if it's not meant to be that intense. I am asking to see if my reaction is the norm, or if it can vary. I wasn't asking about why one file appeals to me while others don't.

[stryper]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I was asking if the addiction aspect of the file manifested itself as an obsession, like a drug addiction, or if it's not meant to be that intense. I am asking to see if my reaction is the norm, or if it can vary. I wasn't asking about why one file appeals to me while others don't.

Okay, yeah ... no worries. Sorry for the misunderstanding ... dunno exactly how to answer that. It can be addicting. For me, it gets more intense for me every time I listen making me want to listen more - even when I take a break for a few days. That said, I go in spurts where life gets in the way and there are days that I cannot listen. I can't say that I'm addicted, but I can say that I miss it when I don't get to listen. I guess I am a bit obsessed with it ... I always seem to return after a break. Seems like having the hypnotist tell you to listen to the file over and over again seems to work .

Not sure if that helped.

[jeremyjason76]

A bit. Thanks for the input. Hopefully, others can chime in and I can maybe come to a consensus.

[jeremyjason76]

Stryper, I tried messaging you back, but it says you have disabled receiving messages.

[stryper]

Stryper, I tried messaging you back, but it says you have disabled receiving messages.

Thanks for letting me know. I guess I set it up when I signed up and didn't think about it afterwards. It should be fixed now.

[jeremyjason76]

Fixed and responded.

[passenger889]

I’ve been wanting to try this after seeing how some of the people in this thread have responded to the hypno. But I can’t seem to go under with Emg’s file. Is there any other files that work?

[stryper]

You can try HeteroSexual Eraser by JackDrago ... that one is pretty cool. I like Curse Gay Gym quite a bit. I also have trouble going under. The Binaural version of the files help. I also have a set of virtual reality glasses and I use a meditation app from my smartphone - that seems to help. I am practicing on letting go more and more and I am finally getting the hang of it. With the VR glasses on, I just keep trying to relax and I also stop trying too hard and just go with it. The more you do it, the more you get the hang of it. I'm not completely there yet, but I think I'm finally starting to go deeper with every listen.

[JackDrago]

@passenger889 I'd recommend my Shattered Heterosexuality series. Several induction choices: Heterosexuality Eraser is a confusion brainwash (good for ADD and others with attention problems) SH itself is based on Failing to Resist and Man Fucker uses a visualization induction.

So, pretty much whichever trance type works for you will be represented.

[Conco]

Since this thread is so much more active, does anybody have advice on the best practice for listening to conversion files in general for the optimal effects? How often/for how long did you convertees listen, and did you abstain from your old porn until the new became irresistible, or something? Any advice would be welcome!

[passenger889]

I guess the idea of being turned completely gay just turns me on for some reason since I’m married. Maybe they don’t work cause I’m actually not wanting to or maybe I’m a bad subject lol

[stryper]

I guess the idea of being turned completely gay just turns me on for some reason since I’m married. Maybe they don’t work cause I’m actually not wanting to or maybe I’m a bad subject lol

You are in the same boat as some of us ... as far as going under, it is hard for me too, but I'm slowly learning to let go and not be so apprehensive. The files surprisingly have an effect even if you don't think they do ... keep trying - it'll happen.

[Another]

So I've got an odd situation, that has come up.

First some background. Dabbled with CFG years ago, but got a gf shortly after starting so I just gave up on it. Recently we broke things off (it was mutual, no bad blood thankfully), so I decided to dip back in. I'm mostly straight, though I also find transgendered individuals who look very feminine to also be attractive. I guess I'd say I'm more attracted to femininity than just if someone is a woman or not.

So onto the issue. I've been using the file off and on for a month and I've found that I'm having a harder time feeling attracted to female focused porn, but my attraction to male focused porn hasn't manifested either. Transgender porn is still alright, maybe because it crosses the divide?

It's doesn't feel like I'm asexual at the moment, it's just sort of...fuzzy I guess? I dunno, has anyone else had this issue where the attraction to women starts dropping off, without an equal increase in attraction to men?

[stryper]

Well, you're a free man w/o a gf. Maybe experiment by finding another guy? Dunno what you are going through. My attraction to guys have grown and my attraction to women have decreased. I'm still in limboland with turning completely and I'm in a relationship, so I cannot go experiment ... if I were in your shoes and I wanted to be gay ... or experience something with another guy as a straight man, I would. What are your eventual desires/goals? To complete the transformation as gay or stay straight??

[Another]

Main goal would be to become completely gay. My main problem with trying anything with a guy at the moment is just lack of attraction. Like I said, attraction to women has gone down, but attraction to men has not really gone up. In particular face shape, hair, and general body shape are turn offs atm.

[stryper]

Main goal would be to become completely gay. My main problem with trying anything with a guy at the moment is just lack of attraction. Like I said, attraction to women has gone down, but attraction to men has not really gone up. In particular face shape, hair, and general body shape are turn offs atm.

You'll get there. Keep listening to CFG, let go and don't try so hard (I've been guilty of that) and start watching gay porn. The more you listen, the more it'll help take affect. It helped me - I'm not there yet and I have not listened for awhile, but the more I listened, the more the file turned me on ... give it time.

[Another]

Thank you for the advice. I'll keep plugging away at it.

[stryper]

Thank you for the advice. I'll keep plugging away at it.

So how's it going?

[Another]

Hey Stryper, I know i replied to your pm's but i figured I'd add my response here for eveyone:

Life's gotten in the way atm, but i plan to get back to the file tonight. The file has also made me somewhat...anal curious, so I've bought some stuff to play around with that.

If nothing else comes out of this file, maybe i get a fun new sex thing to do anyway, so win-win.

[jdmj90]

Hey Stryper, I know i replied to your pm's but i figured I'd add my response here for eveyone:

Life's gotten in the way atm, but i plan to get back to the file tonight. The file has also made me somewhat...anal curious, so I've bought some stuff to play around with that.

If nothing else comes out of this file, maybe i get a fun new sex thing to do anyway, so win-win.

Hehe. I do hope you enjoy it. Anal play can be quite an amazing feeling. I know i enjoy it.

[Another]

Just wanted to drop in to give an update.

So I've been listening to the file for a little over a month, and haven't had much in the way of change. Any change in attraction I've had in women at the start just came back, and I'm still not getting anything from dudes. I've tried looking a gay porn every couple of days, and mostly my thoughts have been "yep, that guy sure is naked" XD

That said the file wasn't completely without merit for me. The curiosity about anal play ended up being a fun activity, and I found myself turned on by the suggestion of not being able to get it up for a woman, and now I'm poking around at sargona's curse of the teeny weenie. So I think I know what my next file is going to be.

All of this isnt to say that this file is ineffective or anything like that. It just hasn't budged much of my sexuality personally. Much love to those of you it has had an effect on. Now I think I need to go take some measurements if I'm going to do sargona's file. <3

[Dave564]

Hey guys, it's me - can't believe it's been 10 years!

Hope everyone is doing good - I would love to reconnect with some of you xx

[stryper]

Hey guys, it's me - can't believe it's been 10 years!

Hope everyone is doing good - I would love to reconnect with some of you xx

Hey ... thanks for starting this thread. I enjoyed reading your experiences and it kind of helped me to listen and start the journey! My situation is different than yours and I'm not there yet. I suspect that you are now fully into the lifestyle you want and that you are doing well?

[davidrb]

Hey guys, it's me - can't believe it's been 10 years!

Hope everyone is doing good - I would love to reconnect with some of you xx

I've enjoyed following this series over the past year+. Thanks Dave564 for starting the thread and inspiring changes or adventures in many of us. Would like to hear how you are doing now,

Me, I am Bi, but wanted to explore more of my gay side; so I listened to files like this. Had my first 'gay' experience earlier this year and thoroughly enjoyed it. Hypnosis helps me clarify to myself, what I want to pursue.

[gayblake2017]

Hello Fellow Turnees!

Somewhat straight guy here and I am looking to take the plunge all the way into CFG. I have listened a bit in the past, but never made it as far as I would like in my journey. I am hoping that I can fully commit this time and see how far I can progress with this. Wish me luck guys! With any hope I will kick the urge for pussy and tits altogether!

[Dave564]

Stryper + davidrb thanks for your comments!

It's been quite the journey but yes I'm doing well, I never started this thread with the intention of it living on for so long, and I didn't mean to inspire anyone but I'm so happy it has!

It has been a ride with ups and downs, I have lost contact with my family and I did split from my bf for a while, but we are back together and happy again - there have been compromises but life is all good!

[fireinside23]

Hey there! I used to reply a lot on here but I haven’t the past few years. But to cut to the chase, I been on niteflirt which is a site full of Hypnotists, doms, witches and others for your desire. Before hand, I used to listen to CFG on and off but not too much because it scared me. But I was talking to this one lady on nite flirt and she put it in my head that CFG had no effect on me and that I’d keep listening. So I listened to it for a few times In a matter of days. Then I talked to this other girl and told her all about this site, file and my past. And she told me to be gay, to listen and listen and listen. After that I listened 3-4 times plus some hypnosis she gave me. Also, I forgot to put this in I had a hook up with a dude from Grindr. I sucked his dick for the first time and I wanted him to fuck me but I was too tight. I didn’t wanna kiss him or anything besides suck his dick. Idk I just didn’t like it and felt gross. He blew me. It felt good but there were times I tried to imagine girls. But this file is working on me. I don’t feel the same about girls. I still like them but it’s like someone turned the dial down a few clicks. I haven’t listened in weeks and I still love the idea of getting fucked in the ass but when I’m actually engaging in gay sex most of the stuff feels off regarding kissing and getting close. But I will suck dick It’s just not my deepest desire. Also one more thing, I do enjoy women I like their tits and ass and all still it’s just not as it was it a little bit of that feeling in my stomach, like a nausea feeling. It’s a little bit. But yeah that me. So any input, advice or advice is welcomed.