The forced gay success thread...

[AlanH26]

I hope this all works out sooo badly. I think I've inspired you turnees to be gay a bit, but now I want to fuck on camera to inspire the world. I want straight men to become gay from finally realizing the only thing better than playing with their own hard cock is to play with another man's cock.

Keep up the good work sweetie. I've long been wanting more turnees. Seems soon long ago since I coined that phrase, and even longer since Dave inspired me to turn. We need to get more straights onto our side xxx

[Dreamin4Men]

Is anyone left in here straight anymore? I really want to know why a straight guy doesn't like gay porn. When I see it I can't even imagine how someone wouldn't be turned on by it.

[subdad36]

still 2x a day here. no real diff yet, but i did find myself thinking the guys in the porn i was checking out last night (i was already watching guy/guy porn b4 i started) were "lucky" instead of just hot.
and it feels like something is welling up. not sure what or anything, that is just a feeling i get sometimes. weird.

[lew897]

For me I have always looked at lesbian porn, and masturbation porn. I started some sissy stuff, and really thought I needed to be gay or bisexual so I tried these out and it worked but I really lost out of the feeling of being a girlie girl, oddly enough. So, Im a gay sissy, but straight guy.

[subdad36]

has anyone else notice or find this file to act as an amplifier for other stuff they are doing? all of a sudden, it seems like everything is working way stronger. i have never gone as deep on a file as i do on this (completely out) and now it feels like i go way deeper with everything. feels like i'm in for an awesome ride, lol. everything is so intense

[Dogboy]

Is anyone left in here straight anymore? I really want to know why a straight guy doesn't like gay porn. When I see it I can't even imagine how someone wouldn't be turned on by it.

Just doesn't have the curves, smooth skin or the amazing views of women being pleasured.

[subdad36]

still at it for 2x a day for going on 3 more days. no real changes noticed. feels like i am on cruise control with this. still going very deep and enjoying it. i guess my mind has dealt with the negative aspects, as i don't really think about them anymore. desire to run it again is strong

[transformed]

still at it for 2x a day for going on 3 more days. no real changes noticed. feels like i am on cruise control with this. still going very deep and enjoying it. i guess my mind has dealt with the negative aspects, as i don't really think about them anymore. desire to run it again is strong

Don't get discouraged! The changes can be very subtle at the start. How do you view men now when you pass them or see them on TV? Do you get different feelings now as opposed to before you started?

I suspect there may be more changes going on then you're aware of! Be patient and keep listening sweetie! It will get you there!!

[subdad36]

I am sticking with it, no worries. I just thought it would have had a more noticeable effect by now (12 days in). Was out and about yesterday for 12 hours without noticing i was checking guys out differently. i am feeling effects from other files much more, so i will take that as progress, too. i feel like i may be more emotional (positive) when it comes to guys, but not totally sure about that. Thx for the encouragement!

[HeadMistress Squirrel]

For me I have always looked at lesbian porn, and masturbation porn. I started some sissy stuff, and really thought I needed to be gay or bisexual so I tried these out and it worked but I really lost out of the feeling of being a girlie girl, oddly enough. So, Im a gay sissy, but straight guy.

give this video a go ;) :

http://annamalicesissyselfhypnosis.com/2014/2468-limp-clitty-training/


that is,if you want to be in touch with your feminine side..mute it if you dont want to be forever limp ;)

[HeadMistress Squirrel]

Is anyone left in here straight anymore? I really want to know why a straight guy doesn't like gay porn. When I see it I can't even imagine how someone wouldn't be turned on by it.

Just doesn't have the curves, smooth skin or the amazing views of women being pleasured.

also, from childhood, most children are conditioned that desiring someone of the same sex is socially and morally wrong. though being a bisexual woman or lesbian is accepted, mostly because it is opposite gender taboo. male bravado is often the stigmatism that hinders homosexuality.

'being gay is not masculine' - total falsehood.

[JohnDave]

Day 29/60

Update guys, ok, so now I pretty much can't cum unless I'm seeing cocks. I may be jerking off to a hottie like http://tinyurl.com/mas5l4x, but then I flick to a video of a shemale with a big cock, or a guy with a huge dick. I find that I'm playing with my nipples and opening my legs more, and it feels good to rub all over my body when I'm getting really horny.

I still love women though, but just sometimes when I see boobs there's a nagging thought in the back of my mind that they're.... 'boring'...??? and that I would only want to 'hug' them, I dunno... I think I like cocks instead of vaginas, but they're still pretty nice :-)

I really hope I start loosing my attraction to women soon, I'm getting to half way :-(

I have been thinking about buying a vibrator though :oops:

[Dreamin4Men]

Day 29/60

I still love women though, but just sometimes when I see boobs there's a nagging thought in the back of my mind that they're.... 'boring'...??? and that I would only want to 'hug' them, I dunno... I think I like cocks instead of vaginas, but they're still pretty nice :-)

Wow I feel the exact same way. Boobs are pretty nice sometimes but after a second or two of looking they just become boring. There's just not much to do with boobs.

Cock on the other hand is amazing. There's just so much more you can do with them. Suck it, stroke it, fuck it. Plus seeing a hard cock makes me so horny that I almost have to immediately relieve myself of some lust...

[subdad36]

2 weeks in today and not much new here. feels like some emotional plug is getting set to let go, but i am not sure how or why i feel that way. everything else feels kind of muted. it's weird, but i also do have a lot going on outside of this. my nipples are a lot more sensitive and cause a much stronger reaction, but that is something i am working on outside of wmm, so who knows where that is coming from. It still feels all good and i seem to think about running it more and more, so we'll keep going

[Fomicry]

Day 29/60

Update guys, ok, so now I pretty much can't cum unless I'm seeing cocks. I may be jerking off to a hottie like http://tinyurl.com/mas5l4x, but then I flick to a video of a shemale with a big cock, or a guy with a huge dick. I find that I'm playing with my nipples and opening my legs more, and it feels good to rub all over my body when I'm getting really horny.

I still love women though, but just sometimes when I see boobs there's a nagging thought in the back of my mind that they're.... 'boring'...??? and that I would only want to 'hug' them, I dunno... I think I like cocks instead of vaginas, but they're still pretty nice :-)

I really hope I start loosing my attraction to women soon, I'm getting to half way :-(

I have been thinking about buying a vibrator though :oops:

Im glad to hear, you sound like you are coming along nicely.
I hope to hear more ^_^
I wish you luck.

[Martin7]

Hello everyone,

I feel so honoured to join this thread. This is my very first post of all time! Though I have read this lil' badboy for months now.

I have on/off listened to a few curse files for a few months and have seen some noticable changes.

I wanted to listen to it every day but sometimes I don't feel the need to. As though I know I'm becoming gay so I don't really care if I listen or not.

Buuut, I am going to go full whack and listen to Forced Gay and Total Feminization (+plus a mish-mash of a few other feminizing files) every night now until New Year's.

So roughly 60 days of the hypno gay release awaits!

As for me and who I am, I'm a 26 year old 'male' who identifies as a woman and I am so femme now after years of repressing my true nature.

I have always fantasised about men and I looove cock soooo much. Yet I was so deep in the closet I had a time-share in Narnia!

Now I'm 'out' I feel so amazing. And I'm going to go forward in my self-expression and hopefully find a cute guy to have cuddles and a little "sumhin sumhin".

Love you all guys and gals. Mwah! Xxx

[JohnDave]

Day 33/60

Wow Taylor Swift.

that is all :)

[OxyFemboi]

JohnDave wrote:

Day 33/60

Wow Taylor Swift.

that is all :-)

*giggle*

[subdad36]

Day 20 here and still digging it. I go back and forth on some of the negative connotations, but today was under for the whole file for this am. Not sure where or when it started happening, but i thought i would start feeling different and what i think is happening is that i am starting to think gay (if that makes sense, no disrespect intended) more than noticing i feel different. I am noticing guys are cute more than just noticing them, and some porn stuff just makes my dick jump out of my skin. I am going to keep going, because it feels like i am still caught in the middle somewhere. Still noticing good looking women, but was with a guy and was snuggling into him afterwards. that is something i have never felt comfortable with b4.......

[AFA]

I am going to be making a file related to this topic so I thought it would be best to ask those here for advice.

So 2 questions:
1. What file do you think has worked the best to make you gay or aware you are gay?

2. Do you happen to know if there is a script of said file anywhere and if so could you link it to me or PM it to me? (Note: I don't currently have a premium account so I can't access most script files here)

If you would like to know the details of the file I am thinking of let me know I would be happy to share. ^_^

[subdad36]

have we killed this thread? How's JohnDave doing? Day 26 here and ran it 3x yesterday. not sure why, it just felt so good. Had been only 1x for a bit. Starting to wish i could find a all-guy gym :)

[Route42]

I am going to be making a file related to this topic so I thought it would be best to ask those here for advice.

So 2 questions:
1. What file do you think has worked the best to make you gay or aware you are gay?

2. Do you happen to know if there is a script of said file anywhere and if so could you link it to me or PM it to me? (Note: I don't currently have a premium account so I can't access most script files here)

If you would like to know the details of the file I am thinking of let me know I would be happy to share. ^_^

Without knowing more specifically what your goal is, it's hard for me to answer. I do have some general, broad thoughts on the topic.

1. I find this type of file most effective when it avoids gender-specific terms; while I'm sure a fair number of users are physically male who identify as men, there are a number of users (and judging by the amount of feminization files on this site, a not insignificant number) who are physical men who identify more feminine (or perhaps avoid gender classifications all together). Terms like "gay" mean different things depending on the perceived gender of the listener. I have yet to find a good file that does this; as such I have taken to writing up my own scripts. (Doesn't mean it doesn't exist--just that I haven't found it yet.)

2. CFG, and other files of this type, are generally focused on one aspect of attraction: lust of the male body, especially the cock part of the body. It's always seemed weird to me to limit the file to that one particular issue when attraction to a specific sex is about a whole menagerie of things. A lot of people can listen to a file like CFG and make the leap from "body lust" to the other factors of attraction, but I think my subconscious is too literal to do that.

3. I know I prefer it when files stick to one kink. To use CFG as an example, it's about becoming gay, yes, but also wraps in a lot of shame and humiliation suggestions. Maybe there is a hypnosis reason for putting those in there, but I know whatever effect I'd experience from the file would be best experienced (by me) free from those ideas. Not my interest. While those suggestions haven't seemed to limit the file's broader appeal, I do think they're the cause of some of the struggles some people have had with the file.

Anyway, these comments aren't a specific file or script, but maybe they'll be useful.

[AFA]

Thanks Route42,

While your response is not exactly what I am looking for it is quite helpful. It has actually grown my workload from one file into two though. XD

You brought up some really good points I will address along with what I was/am trying to achieve.

Without knowing more specifically what your goal is, it's hard for me to answer. I do have some general, broad thoughts on the topic.

Originally my goal was one curse file that had two main parts to it in a way. The first part is to make the subject permanently gay just like CFG (honestly never thought that was that much of a "curse" anyways) and other is the curse part. Basically the file would make someone a stereotypical fox furry in a way. They would always be gay but if they get turned on and start acting on there foxy urges (Masturbating, sex, maybe even trying to seduce someone) they will become a horny subby anthro fox(the basic stereotype in the fandom which includes being gay) till they cum. However because they are so submissive they can't cum without permission from someone.

However you have made a few good points so my new goal will be a Forced Gay file then use what I can from that to work on the other file (If I can stay motivated).

1. I find this type of file most effective when it avoids gender-specific terms; while I'm sure a fair number of users are physically male who identify as men, there are a number of users (and judging by the amount of feminization files on this site, a not insignificant number) who are physical men who identify more feminine (or perhaps avoid gender classifications all together). Terms like "gay" mean different things depending on the perceived gender of the listener. I have yet to find a good file that does this; as such I have taken to writing up my own scripts. (Doesn't mean it doesn't exist--just that I haven't found it yet.)

I find this statement to be a bit confusing could you elaborate a bit or give an example? Are you saying something along the lines of maybe forced homosexual without the use of male or female pronouns? I guess it can be done but it does make some problems and some major limits.

2. CFG, and other files of this type, are generally focused on one aspect of attraction: lust of the male body, especially the cock part of the body. It's always seemed weird to me to limit the file to that one particular issue when attraction to a specific sex is about a whole menagerie of things. A lot of people can listen to a file like CFG and make the leap from "body lust" to the other factors of attraction, but I think my subconscious is too literal to do that.

I have noticed this in a lot of similar files and it seems like none even attempt to transition from being all about sex to other factors other than maybe the sissy files which as you mention later is a whole nother kink to a file. Odds are that in the file if I can make it right it will start with a focus on the sexual (why a lot of people listen anyways) but include some other suggestions for attraction for transition. I have a few ideas but would love to hear some others.

3. I know I prefer it when files stick to one kink. To use CFG as an example, it's about becoming gay, yes, but also wraps in a lot of shame and humiliation suggestions. Maybe there is a hypnosis reason for putting those in there, but I know whatever effect I'd experience from the file would be best experienced (by me) free from those ideas. Not my interest. While those suggestions haven't seemed to limit the file's broader appeal, I do think they're the cause of some of the struggles some people have had with the file.

Agreed. Actually this has been my pet peeve with a lot of files. When it comes to making someone gay via hypnosis it almost always includes one or a combination of shame, humiliation, enslavement, or sissy/feminization. It can be really annoying. Also it annoys me how a lot of the time it includes disgust with the opposite sex. I have heard plenty of gay guys who can appreciate the female form but it just doesn't do anything for them, not disgust. It always feels like they are trying to make someone not just gay but an anti female jerk to me.

Sorry for the mini rant there.

Anyways the more input I get the better. Thanks.

(PS: I know the fox idea would belong in the Transformation section but this get's more activity and more of the feedback I am looking for. Also now I am looking at making a actual forced gay file, so now it fits. In other words pleas don't move this.)

[OxyFemboi]

Yes, there does seem to be shame and humiliation included in the CFG file. I suspect the shame is included to make straight sex repulsive to the listener as well as making the listener attracted to other males and to characteristics that only other males share (a cock, for example).

"Gay" is used both as an identifier for "males attracted to other males" as well as a synonym for "person attracted to others of the same sex". In the 1970s and 19890s, Lesbians, wanted to be listed separately; they felt that they were not included in the descriptor "gay". As a result, most organizations listed "lesbian" separately, so we have GLAAD, LGBT, etc.

I suspect whoever wrote CFG used gay in the sense of "attracted to other males", since it's only recommended for (umm ... this has to be wrong) Gay Men. One remix has it recommended for Straight Men, which makes more sense.

[Fomicry]

Another success for me - I got a new doctor after being without one for sometime. In the questionnaire I filled out, one of the questions was about my sexuality. I paused but felt in good conscience I could not circle anything but "gay/lesbian".

It feels so good and liberating to be honest with those around me.

:D

Congrats ^_^
Seems weird they'd ask that thou...

[Fomicry]

Another success for me - I got a new doctor after being without one for sometime. In the questionnaire I filled out, one of the questions was about my sexuality. I paused but felt in good conscience I could not circle anything but "gay/lesbian".

It feels so good and liberating to be honest with those around me.

:D

Congrats ^_^
Seems weird they'd ask that thou...

My doctor's office is at the local college so I think it's because a lot of his patients are students.

He's also very young (and cute too).

Cool, Haha
On both :P

[subdad36]

CFG = completely fucking gay

[ftslave67]

starting to think gay . . .

just makes my dick jump out of my skin . . .

was with a guy and was snuggling into him afterwards. that is something i have never felt comfortable with b4.......

1. no disrespect even hinted at--you're fine

2. ouch--that sounds painful! :)

3. that is an awesome feeling, isn't it?

[pussycat100]

My wish to turn gay comes from wanting to have strong and meaningful friendships with women. I can't get past superficial relations because sexual attraction always gets in the way. I could probably do something to get rid of my sex drive but I love sex too much. This way I could have a common interest with women and hopefully not be sexually attracted to them.

I'm thinking it's possible this could backfire because I might not have the same desire be so close to women anyway. But if all goes to plan I hope to take my relationships with men and women to a whole new level, to be able to connect with women psychologically and emotionally, and men sexually which should improve my social life dramatically.

A little history: I found this site several years ago and got into the feminization files. I became intrigued by the idea of changing my sexual preference but at the time I mainly focused on a different file called trainsexmen. I got so I could almost recite the whole thing. In addition I was doing all kinds of other things like subscribing to gay porn magazines and even buying them at adult bookstores because the humiliation factor was exciting. I trained myself to become very aroused at naked men by looking mostly at women to get to a high point and finish with the guys. Currently I'm probably somewhere around 70-30 Women to Men attraction. It seems only when I'm super horny do I go straight for gay porn. Certain images though are always a big turn on.

But just physical attraction seems like only part of becoming completely gay. Like I don't get romantic feelings at all around men.

I am probably only half way there as I can't imaging myself in an actual relationship with a man romantically or sexually.

Fastforward to today as I just found this thread and it's really a turn on knowing that there is a support group for guys like me. I had downloaded this file log ago but I had no idea how powerful it was til I read the stories.
Now I'm going full on 2x a day and see what happens. Wish me luck

[OxyFemboi]

pussycat wrote
Fastforward to today as I just found this thread and it's really a turn on knowing that there is a support group for guys like me. I had downloaded this file long ago but I had no idea how powerful it was til I read the stories.
Now I'm going full on 2x a day and see what happens. Wish me luck

Best of wishes! I'm sure you'll get exactly what you desire.

Like you, I've found many intriguing files I later used by reading various Success Stories threads.

[subdad36]

starting to think gay . . .

just makes my dick jump out of my skin . . .

was with a guy and was snuggling into him afterwards. that is something i have never felt comfortable with b4.......

1. no disrespect even hinted at--you're fine

2. ouch--that sounds painful! :)

3. that is an awesome feeling, isn't it?

thanks ftslave67!
It is an exquisite pain, lol.
the feeling is beyond what i would have thought. so many more emotions now, and it is like the scale got bigger. the good feelings are soooooo awesome.
Like everyone says, it is hard to imagine myself now not gay. wild

Pussycat100-good luck and enjoy. It is an awesome ride. and you WILL have romantic feelings for guys. big-time. i thought the same way, but that is so out the window. like a high-schooler sometimes, even. lol

[xiaoweixiao]

After a couple months of listening and stopping i found my pattern with CFG is kinda like a afraid of totally giving my attention to EMG's voice and i have been thinking too much (maybe inside of me i was not too secure abt his file since i do have a girl friend) Recently i saw a pop up porn ad from my browser and that suddenly reminded me of CFG all again, I really wanted to listen to it this time and i havent yet. I think if i try to "give in" this time, i might actually be turned gay, i dunno how it will go but i cant wait to hear the file.

[pussycat100]

pussycat wrote
Fastforward to today as I just found this thread and it's really a turn on knowing that there is a support group for guys like me. I had downloaded this file long ago but I had no idea how powerful it was til I read the stories.
Now I'm going full on 2x a day and see what happens. Wish me luck

Best of wishes! I'm sure you'll get exactly what you desire.

Like you, I've found many intriguing files I later used by reading various Success Stories threads.

Thanks Oxy! I feel like there are unlimited possibilities with all the files on here. I look forward to the times when I can go on a hypno binge :)

[pussycat100]

Does anyone else feel like it's sometimes distracting being attracted to guys when doing simple things like watching sports or going into typically male environments to get something accomplished. It's strange having to deal with this having never had to deal with it before. I guess it's no more distracting than women are but the circumstances and environments are different.

As far as checking out guys there is plus that no one suspects it, but if you are caught the consequences can be scary. In my experience though most guys aren't bothered by an appreciative look even with all the homophobia out there I think mainly because of the male ego. Also I don't think I gawk that much because my attraction to men is still not up to the female standard for me yet. I'm really looking forward to the day where my attraction to men will surpass that of women.

[Dreamin4Men]

@pussycat
It sounds like a visit to a gay club would fix almost all of your problems. For starters, checking out men is actually encouraged there. Plus they probably like it too.

If you're in a gay club too you wont have much to remind yourself of how you feel about women. Coming out of the club without a new gay obsession is pretty much impossible. I love it

[pussycat100]

@pussycat
It sounds like a visit to a gay club would fix almost all of your problems. For starters, checking out men is actually encouraged there. Plus they probably like it too.

If you're in a gay club too you wont have much to remind yourself of how you feel about women. Coming out of the club without a new gay obsession is pretty much impossible. I love it

That actually sounds so HOT! I'll def. have to make that trip soon. If things keep progressing the way they are I hope to even have some friends accompanying me. BTW I've been feeling super horny all the time since I've been listening to CFG, not sure the reason but it's an amazing feeling.

[Dreamin4Men]

@pussycat
Even though I turned a good while ago, I still get those extreme horny feelings all the time. I also get super horny whenever I think about CFG and the results it's had on me. It's basically like a reinforcement on me to keep me nice and gay. Those feelings don't fade over time either. It almost like my body is thanking me for giving it what it wants. I never felt anything half as strong as this when I thought I was straight. I love this sooo much...

[Dreamin4Men]

If you've listened to this a lot with no success, keep listening and test yourself by bringing up some gay porn and seeing how you feel. Eventually, something is gonna click for you. You'll know when it happens. When you're trying to climb through your screen to join the guys in the vids, that's when you miight be a tiny bit horny and gay.

EDIT: How could I forget to give you turnees a little test of my own? I like to imagine this one as us turnees bent over together desperately waiting to consumate our new sexual orientation...

[xiaoweixiao]

Last session I took a lot of coffee and was really awake and then I listened to CFG with no resistance in mind, which basically no other thoughts at all and just trying to listen to his voice and think about what EMG says. I very soon realized that I got into a very deep kind of state where I feel really heavy and all I could do and was doing was listening to the file, listened to whatever I needed to listen to.

Today, I was on internet searching for porn and as soon as i played a porn with one guy having sex with a woman. I had a blur thought of how that girl doesnt have a cock and I was paying more attention to the guy's dick! I was really shocked and as I watched on I was more of looking at the guy and the guy's dick turned me on so much and at some point I felt that I came close to cumming and I was surprised.

I think the file is really strong and I am listening to it now soon because I feel like doing it so much and i dunno how to explain it, it just feels like listening to the file again is the right thing to do for me.

From now on Im gonna go with the flow of the file, I will update further changes.

[OxyFemboi]

Thanks dreamerrj! ummy!

First CFG, then the various get-in-shape files.

[santi777]

!!!Hello!!! I hope everyone is having fun becoming gay or even more gay!!!

[NorthPole]

I guess I should share my story since I have enjoyed this thread so much. First, I should let you know that I have always been bisexual but not really emotionally attracted to men. I've been listening to the file on and off since I found this thread in the summer. I would listen to the file for a few days, get really horny and then lose interest for a while and then listening again. The file made me fantasize about being with men a lot while I was listening to it, but only about the same things I always fantasized about with men. Recently I think the file is starting to have a really big effect on me though. I started listening to Blank before CFG and noticed that I went into a deeper trance than I usually do. Since then I've been having a lot of new fantasies with men. I've been more interested in kissing, men with muscles, and running my hands down a man's chest during sex. I am still attracted to women and have been watching porn with women in it but it is starting to feel like a chore a little bit. I've read the thread enough to know where this is likely headed and I think that I am ok with it. I have been thinking about trying out a gay bar when I get back to school after the holidays, I don't really go to bars much now though so I am a little nervous about it.

Wow, it actually felt really good to share that.

[OxyFemboi]

northpolw wrote
... I am still attracted to women and have been watching porn with women in it but it is starting to feel like a chore a little bit. I've read the thread enough to know where this is likely headed and I think that I am ok with it. I have been thinking about trying out a gay bar when I get back to school after the holidays, I don't really go to bars much now though so I am a little nervous about it.

Wow, it actually felt really good to share that.

Hey bro ... I was never into going to bars to drink, either. You can meet other gays anywhere these days. There are gay clubs on campus, gay runners, gay bookworms, etc. Go to some of these choices if you're not into bars. Talk about coming out with other gays, whatever. Bars and sex clubs are not the only places to meet other gays.

[Thahlos]

hi i am nineteen years old and still go to school after some on and off listening (which was a half year ago and only after this it makes me a bit bi) I decided to listening it everyday. I just listened it today and it makes me impossibe horny. I try to give you a lot of updates.
Sorry for my english, i am from germany

[pussycat100]

Update after 3 weeks of CFG and I think its really starting to have an major effect on me. I haven't had any desire to watch straight porn in a long time. the biggest thing I've noticed is the different kinds of emotions in general that I've never felt before. It seems like all the things I've repressed in the past are all surfacing at the same time which is amazing. It's as if CFG freeing the real me which was buried and hidden. Maybe it has something to do with the association of being gay and not being afraid to show feelings.

I feel like the thing which CFG has the most resistance to are the slowest to change. For example I put a much higher priority on losing my attraction to women than to gain attraction to men. And it seems to be playing out that way as I'm already looking at women as being much more mundane and less interesting physically. When I look at nude women all I can think of is that it's kind of awkward and that they need to put some clothes on. But when I see fit men sometimes I tend to mentally undress them and try to imagine exactly what is causing that nice bulge in their pants.

Another thing I noticed is that everything slowly builds up in your subconscious without you realizing it and suddenly it hits you in one form or another. Sometimes you are having idle thoughts and wonder why you thought a certain guy was cute. Or sometimes you find yourself flirting with a guy unconsciously.

For me the process is definitely not overnight and I'm not sure if anyone else has had this happen but there are times when the subconscious seems to rebel against the programming for a period of time. And there seems to be kind of a reverse effect. Maybe it just takes a little bit of time for everything to settle but then all of a sudden it all comes back full force and more.

Anyway I'll keep updating as things change
xoxo Bye until next time.

[subdad36]

Great updates and it is good to see all is not lost on here. It has been 2 months for me, but i haven't had as much time lately, so my average is way down, lol.
For me, like a lot of folks on here, it is hard to believe how far i have come in just 2 months. I have been doing this along with jock files and working out, and the difference is awesome. i feel way better about myself, dress way better (actually concerned every time i dress. that's wild), i am buying all new, tighter/fashionable clothes, and identify myself as totally gay. It is awesome. Freeing, and scary, in a lot of ways.
Northpole-the fantasies you are having about kissing and running your hands all over are even better in real life. I was never really into this stuff, but now it is soooo amazing. I couldn't stop either when I was with a guy i see regularly the last few times. :)
Oxy, you are so right about there being many more places to meet guys. Damn, just walk around. I get so many more smiles and flirts now. it's awesome
Pussycat, i go through cycles where i feel more and less. I think it has to do with me not wanting to dislike women any more. I just want to be only attracted to men. I fight with that all the time. I am also waaaaay more emotional now. it is very freeing, but can be a bit embarrasing (i well up at some pretty stupid stuff, lol. my kids have busted me). It is mostly, if not all, good emotion. but there is a lot of it sometimes, lol. the full force thing is way cool :)
peace all

[santi777]

It's great to hear about your wonderful experiences, SubDad;)
I now consider myself to be pretty much completely gay. I find myself thinking about guys so much now! The good thing is for me;)...i've become really comfortable dressing up in female clothes. I think the file opens your mind a lot and you can then become the gay guy you were meant to be!
Others have turned into more of a masculine gay jock but that's not really for me...lol;)

My relationships with women are really great too!!! I have two close female friends and it feels so wonderful to talk to them about stuff. I am definitely more emotional now and i get a lot of pleasure from listening to them and being supportive if they have any problems. They are always there for me too!!! Our favorite subject is often guys...of course...lol;)

[ftslave67]

SubDad, you sound like an awesome guy--I predict you're going to make someone very happy! :D