Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

[Glory]

Hi all, getting really curious about these files I have listened to them for 3 days now because being told what to do against my will sounded like a great turn on. I am a masculine looking bottom gay man my buddies are mostly straight and have no female friends.

I love men both mentally and physically. I am not repulsed by women but I have never been attracted to them in the slightest.

I would cross dress and surprisingly I would make a good looking woman and get lots of action with really aggressive alpha males most of them married.

Both files seem to work differently for me when getting into trance and I am posting here as it seems that I am using HC slightly more.

So far have noticed no changes apart from yesterday while going out with a friend when while he was driving and me looking out of the window of his car I totally unconsciously turned my head to look at a poster of a huge breasted woman outside on the entrance door of a sex shop. At that point I gotten automatically aroused with the image of a woman for the first time in my life and then ever more surprised when I consciously realized what has just happened.

I will keep listening for a month ans see where it takes me. How long does it usually take ?

Do you thing it will make me not to be able to be attracted to men any more ?

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Your reinforcement would be even more appreciated and PMs welcome.

[Glory]

I have posted the above to the CFS AND HC threads but I am starting this new one hoping to get it a little more lively.

No progress so far apart from a feeling of uneasiness which seems to be growing worse every day that I keep on listening to these two files.

[xavious]

[quote="Glory":c912d49/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i]No progress so far apart from a feeling of uneasiness which seems to be growing worse every day that I keep on listening to these two files.[/quote:c912d49/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i]
This doesn't sound super positive, so make sure to be careful.

[Glory]

Thank you for the reply xavious

Do you think the uneasiness thought might subside or even reverse?


Oh man, I wish Sarnoga would make a genius file like this. He is like enlightenment meeting hypnosis and he is mostly brilliant in manipulating reality on all levels.

[Glory]

It is almost a week of continuous listening to the files 2-3 times daily.

So far no changes yet. The uneasiness has not subsided but at least it has reached a level that it does not grow any greater.

CFS seems to be doing it more for me because I am ordered to obey and be molded against my will...

Interestingly enough, I perceive the muscles on my face automatically smiling every time pussy is mentioned.

Also, on my last listening to the file I ended up with a huge erection towards the end of it.

[xavious]

I suppose a good question would be what do you feel is causing the sense of unease? Is it a general feeling or does something in particular bring it up?

I'm not an expert on either file, but what effects other than being made to be straight do you desire, if any? Do you wish to remain a "bottom", but towards women instead, or would you like to feel more of a top, or sexually active?

[Glory]

Hi xavious,

Thank you very much for your reply.

It is a feeling of general uneasiness. Maybe it is because I love men in their totality both physically and spiritually so suggestions in the file as to not be attracted to men are not being particularly welcomed so far.

It s not a desire to be straight per se, it is more like a game with my self to see whether it will work on me, coupled with a fantasy of being dominated against my will.

I have gotten horny with strap-on porn in the past but that was mainly because some of my str8... buddies were mentioning it a lot. Even then I would only get aroused with the nice men getting fucked.

However, now with the files and the erections that I get it is not bottoming to an other woman but fucking an other woman that I vaguely sense is trying to manifest.

[observer]

[quote="Glory":83d6ba/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9]Hi xavious,

Thank you very much for your reply.

It is a feeling of general uneasiness. Maybe it is because I love men in their totality both physically and spiritually so suggestions in the file as to not be attracted to men are not being particularly welcomed so far.

It s not a desire to be straight per se, it is more like a game with my self to see whether it will work on me, coupled with a fantasy of being dominated against my will.

I have gotten horny with strap-on porn in the past but that was mainly because some of my str8... buddies were mentioning it a lot. Even then I would only get aroused with the nice men getting fucked.

However, now with the files and the erections that I get it is not bottoming to an other woman but fucking an other woman that I vaguely sense is trying to manifest.[/quote:83d6ba/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9]

HC sorta ties liking chicks into manliness. Do you like the idea of being forced into thinking that way when it must contradict your current philosophy?

[Glory]

Hey observer brilliant hearing from you :D

This was great feedback.

I do like the idea of masculinity in my self and in others irrespectively of sexual orientation. Now if HC would link that to being more masculine and be made to be liking something else, that makes it all the more exciting I feel.

If it happens to contradict my current approach to things then it should be ever more interesting to see what happens next .

Does HC give you a whole new personality to swallow the previous one? That sounds kind of hot.

[observer]

[quote="Glory":47/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i97/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i56]Does HC give you a whole new personality to swallow the previous one? That sounds kind of hot.[/quote:47/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i97/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i56]

The wording is flexible enough to enable that if you want it. It all depends on your own expectations.

[Glory]

Yes, that sounds like an added kink into the file and yes I would love to experience the sexual feelings of an aggressive personality takeover.

Also any encouragement into sticking with the file would be really helpful.

[observer]

[quote="Glory"]Yes, that sounds like an added kink into the file and yes I would love to experience the sexual feelings of an aggressive personality takeover.

Also any encouragement into sticking with the file would be really helpful.[/quote]

I'll PM you

[Glory]

That would be really good

[observer]

[quote="Glory"]That would be really good[/quote]

You can PM me IM details if you like...

[Glory]

update the files seem to be getting addictive making me want to listen.

I get into deeper trances and my body jerks during those trances.

[Glory]

Update.

The file has not repeated the initial arousal when looking at naked women so far.

I do feel the need to listen it more and more.

I go into deep trances and resistance I think is deceasing as I enjoy the sessions more this time.

I stopped feeling that something will be taken away from me and started feeling that something will be given to me.

I have the memory of the voice of the file in my head repeating you need pussy, you need women, you are straight - all day long and I think that feels nice
:oops:

[ftslave67]

Why do you want to lose your attraction to men--has it been a problem for you?

[Glory]

Hi ftslave67,

Thank you for the reply.

I do not want to lose my attraction to men. Men have always been helpful to me even really homophobic ones - women on the other hand would usually try to sabotage personal relationships and working environments more often than not. And that is from my own personal experience so far.

Do you think that I am actually going to lose my attraction to men in the end?
:(

[transformed]

[quote:/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/id36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i338]
Do you think that I am actually going to lose my attraction to men in the end? [/quote:/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/id36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i338]

Well, if you feel you are, you can always go back to CFG and listen in a loop for awhile...that should bring you back to where it sounds like you really want to be!

[Glory]

Hi transformed,

Thank you for the reply.

Will I want to change again then - would also seem to be an issue.

However, guys nobody is giving me effectively any encouragement so far to keep on with the files.

[lew897]

From what it sounds like, your on the right track. I bet its going to get easier sooner rather than later. Im excited in finding out what eventually happens. This stuff has always interested me a lot. Good luck on finding the right balance for yourself.

[transformed]

[quote]Hi transformed,

Thank you for the reply.

Will I want to change again then - would also seem to be an issue.

However, guys nobody is giving me effectively any encouragement so far to keep on with the files.[/quote]

Glory - I think that you said you were always attracted to men from early on and I am one of those who believe that sexual preferences are laid in genetically from birth so while I think you can change behaviors thru hypnosis, I don't think it is possible to entirely eliminate them.

In short, if you always had the desire for guys from early on, I think that desire will always be there to some degree. So, with that said, I think no matter how long you listen to these files, they can certainly change behavior but I don't think they can change natural instinct.

I think you can listen & accept what the files say, but somewhere down the line you'd find the need for guys in your life gnawing at you again because it's your instinct.

Just my two cents anyway, for what it's worth.

[transformed]

[quote:b8af/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i336]Hi transformed,

Thank you for the reply.

Will I want to change again then - would also seem to be an issue.

However, guys nobody is giving me effectively any encouragement so far to keep on with the files.[/quote:b8af/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i336]

Glory - I think that you said you were always attracted to men from early on and I am one of those who believe that sexual preferences are laid in genetically from birth so while I think you can change behaviors thru hypnosis, I don't think it is possible to entirely eliminate them.

In short, if you always had the desire for guys from early on, I think that desire will always be there to some degree. So, with that said, I think no matter how long you listen to these files, they can certainly change behavior but I don't think they can change natural instinct.

I think you can listen & accept what the files say, but somewhere down the line you'd find the need for guys in your life gnawing at you again because it's your instinct.

Just my two cents anyway, for what it's worth.

[Glory]

Hey transformed :D

Thank you for your reply and know that your thoughts are really welcomed and appreciated.

I know what you mean and I personally believe that society has always tried to control peoples' sexuality given that sexual pleasure is such a huge part of one's personality. Hence, if society gets to control such a huge part of ones self then it is really easy to control the whole person and by extension whole groups of people...

And the more peoples' needs are blocked and frustrated the easier it gets to break said persons will and make them negatively turn it against themselves and use all that for your own power. I bet that by now both straight and gay men and women reading this would recognize several instances in their lives that men/women and societal establishments have tried to weaponize their own sexuality against them.

So , I want to make clear that I would never allow or keep silent to the abuse of any people and lgbt people especially at the hands of religious and any other similar organizations in any way, even if the file would have turned me completely str8 so to speak.

And if Mr Right appears a look into his eyes would be all that it would take to dispel all other Gods , Files and Demons away before I would bow to this particular God and all of his magnificence and love.

Why I am doing this now? Probably Mr Right is somehow delayed and me getting bored with just sex I want to play with really 'kinky' thoughts as to whether we can have more straight men playing around with becoming gay and more gay men playing around with becoming straight.

And on that note guys do we have any horny volunteers to take up the CFS and HC files as a challenge and work them with them selves and me and see how it goes? :wink: :wink:

[Glory]

Hey lew897 :D

Welcome, thank you so much for your reply and your positive feedback.

I am feeling so much more relaxed listening to the file now and it leaves me feeling happy. I wish more guys would try it at the same time so that we could compare. This is getting really exciting.

Interestingly enough I was used to trance from the 'obey me' wording of the CFS file and other files but now the word 'pussy' sends me in suuuuch a deep trance... It is a regular mind fuck and just thinking of it makes me really horny 8O :oops:

[Glory]

Hey Generic24,

You are a bit too harsh to transformed and also too judgmental on me assuming misogyny.

That can easily be flipped around and on reasonable grounds assuming that your reaction stems from the fact that you are actually albeit unsuccessfully trying to project your own misogyny onto me.

My experiences are my experiences alone and are based on actual facts and for your information unlike other gay men I do not have a blind spot for women or even men as a matter of fact. If somebody is a prick that is how I call it. Women themselves are a lot harsher on their views of some other women and they are also basing that on their own experiences. Ask them and behold...

Also not all is science and tests. Science very often has tried to impose the very same mental shackles where religion has failed.

I want this experience for my self and others to be fun and making us really horny and playful. Nothing else would fly.

[Glory]

If you have no idea, then on all counts you are the one and only one, who is being confused Generic24 :lol:

So, yes let's agree to get back to the topic :wink:

[Glory]

Generic24,

please get over your projection on misogyny.

Some changes I have already mentioned in more detail earlier.

I get into deep trances and my body shakes.

I no longer feel partially uncomfortable with the files.

I usually get really strong erections at the end of the files.

I used to trance really well with the wording 'obey' but now the word 'pussy' makes me trance oh sooo deep :oops: and that makes me either horny or happy or both...

I also feel my energy levels getting higher I do not know maybe the file somehow increases my testosterone levels and that should partially if I am correct account for it.

I have been listening HC three times in the morning CFS 1-3 times at noon and HC 1-3 times late at night before going to sleep.

I will keep you posted if you guys want for any more changes as soon as I notice anything else happening. Thank you all for the interest.

[Glory]

Update

I enjoy deep trances with the files and wake up remembering nothing.

I haven't had the need to check any porn for a couple of days now.

I still think have no noticeable changes in sexual preference.

I think I am losing interest in the files.

I lost interest in getting penetrated sexually for a few days now which I do not mind at all - I think that I might even be starting to liking it better this way.

[lew897]

I am pretty amazed at how much you've actually listened to it! That is quite the dedication. I tend to think that hypnosis should be for fun so if your getting tired of the files maybe giving them a break should do you some good. Have you tried listening to them as a multiple track or do you listen to the unedited one only?

I have tried HC before but a long time ago. I tend to think that Im bi sexual quite a bit. I have listened to a lot of sissy files so, my judgment is severally twisted.

[Glory]

Hey lew897 :D

Very happy to hear from you. Your replies always cheer me up and help me go on experimenting with the files.

I enjoy physically induced trances as in hypnosis and meditation and I had a bit more time now on my hands.

I still keep on listening to the files because by now they are starting to create a need for me to listen again every day.

The getting tired listening part of the files was mainly because I do not feel any changes in sexual attraction. I am beginning to wonder if this is going to change at all at this point.

From your experience with HC has it altered your perception and attraction towards men and women at all?

And since you mentioned feminization files - I am quite masclunine and I have tried feminization files in the past for a few days. I enjoyed them mentally but I was not happy with any physiological changes so I stopped.

Now with the CFS and HC files I have lost my entire interest to any feminization files - in fact I feel that I am going to start looking for
masculanization files pretty soon
:!:

[lew897]

As long as you are enjoying yourself, keep listening then. Whenever there are files that aren't working or I want them to work better, I usually just revert to having the effects happen only when Im laying down listening. Versus being able to trigger whenever I want it to happen. Eventually, I assume that attraction to women will happen for you.

HC did affect because I don't want to lose my attraction to women ever! At the same time, I listened to sissy files after being a complete straight guy, which made me bisexual. So, I love women, but I still get orgasms from men as well.

As for being more masculine that's awesome!

[Glory]

lew897

Thank you for the good advice on listening to the files.

It is brilliant of you not allowing to lose your attraction to something you already liked and I sooo understand that.

And hell yeah masculinity and extra masculinity is great :twisted:

And here is a major update

Yesterday, I started looking at some straight porn and started fixating to the girl's tits the way I would usually fixate to a man's nice cock. And I thought to my self - now I get it why straight men are so attracted to big tits. WOW. The whole thing was sort of automatic and my attention would be focused on her big firm soft round breasts from the start. That made me super hard and I liked it.

I switched to some gay porn while stroking and I liked it but not getting as much hard as with straight porn. I though the guys' chests were too flat and boring and my arousal was more on a mental level than a physical one.

I turned back to the straight porn and started looking to the guy's cock but then something really weird happened. My gaze would be refocused again almost automatically on the girl's pussy. I would refocus on the guy 2-3 times and constantly I would be forced to be focus on the girl instead.

With the final refocus on the girl's pussy I got a sensation of something pulling me from inside to be wanting the girl. Something clicked and then I came really hard looking at the girl's pussy. I really enjoyed it ,however, I felt uneasy that I did not enjoy my gay porn this time as much.

[lew897]

That's a big leap, since you considered yourself completely gay and not straight at all, to enjoying women more than men in general. That's pretty amazing!

As for the uneasy parts, Im assuming that's because your not used to having your beliefs changed, especially something core to you like sexuality. I generally think hypnosis should be used to empower yourself and be enjoyable. You always can chalk this up to as an experiment. If you stopped today, I assume that the effects should wear off eventually since you've just started. I recommend after this adventure that you continue on to learn trance completely and take advantage of your powerful brain!

All that being said, I think the brain/mind is extremely complex.

[Glory]

Hey Lew894,

Thank you for paying me such a compliment. I really enjoy the level from which you view things.

To me this is also a mind exercise and brain activation is the key to everything. I usually do that to get rid my body of colds and similar stuff and it works within half an hour.

But because I get bored easily these files have also given me a great opportunity to mentally exercise much more playfully both metaphorically and literary speaking... :twisted:

I did though meet with a really Alpha Man later on and I had a feeling of uneasiness which I did not like because it was entirely non rational. It took me a few minutes to shake this off. And then I really enjoyed my self into the warmth of this hunk of a man.

Because of that feeling of uneasiness emerging I thought of stopping listening to the files but then I also like what happens with the women.

What do you think shall I go on listening?

And you guys out there are there any volunteers enjoying the idea to also start listening to this file as I do?

[lew897]

I think you should continue onwards considering its something that's entirely new to you. At the same time, if you like men its probably going to get tough.

[Glory]

Hey Lew894 :D

I have been thinking of gay sex for two days now and even at some point the thought of women repulsed me.

I do get extra hard about pussy though.

What do you mean that if I like men it is probably going to get hard?

[lew897]

Im only assuming since its all new to you. Heck, it could be breeze for you. I very much enjoy women completely and totally. But from the sound of it, you should be enjoying a good deal of hypnosis effects. Im imaging that the effects will continue to grow. How much depends entirely on yourself.

[Glory]

Hey Lew894

It is true I have been having loads of fun with this.

However, a part of me still says no while under hypnosis and given that is best if all parts of me say yes I might discontinue with the files.

I am thinking that that part that says no to the files might have to do with a positive future event either in the sphere of my social interactions or with further spiritual development.

[lew897]

Well, thats up to yourself. I definitely give props to people who know what they want. Is the discomfort from liking women or from not wanting to be gay? If its still worth your time, you could try train women.

[Glory]

Hey lew897,

None of the two. Not this time round at least.

It is some sort of internal protection for a reality that I am to construct externally it has nothing to do with gay-straight men or women it is far more inclusive.

[MasterJack]

I follow this thread very closely. I'd like it if you kept with the files, just to see if they work fully, and how long it takes.

[Glory]

Hi MasterJack and welcome :D

Have you tried similar files yourself?

And if yes what were the effects?

[Glory]

Hello everyone :D

I wanted to thank you all.

Especially,

lew897 :D xavious :D observer :D ftslave67 :D transformed :D Generic24 :D

Thank you all guys.

My attraction and sincere love to all those amazing qualities of men and men themselves is the same and my attraction to pussy I feel that it will start going away. However, I know that I can and will probably consciously retain some of the later.

This has been fun and has given me some very interesting insight into some very interesting sociopsychological dynamics which I am going to keep to my self.

Thank you guys I consider you my friends. Be well always :D

[transformed]

You're most welcome Glory! I hope that your experiment helped you find the answers you were looking for and I consider you a friend as well. Feel free to PM me anytime!

[ftslave67]

Thanks for the mention, Glory.

I missed your reply to my earlier post--I just meant I wonder why you wouldn't maybe want to be bisexual--then you could have it both ways.

[Glory]

Happy New Year to all :D

Thank you for the suggestion ftlave67

Interestingly enough I have not listened to the file at all and instead of my pussy attraction diminishing it has gotten stronger and has stayed with me.

I like that :D

[MasterJack]

What about your attraction and sex with men?

Has it diminished at all since using the file.

[Glory]

Happy new year MasterJack :D

When I was listening to the file I would notice the differences that I already have described plus a sense of competitiveness against other men which was not conducive to sex.

However, no - my attraction to men has not diminished at all. Do you think it could? And if yes, how?

Pussy now -thought- is like it has taken over my cock and I get dripping rock hard with it :twisted: Never been so hard with anything else before...

[Glory]

Have not listened to the files at all.

No desire for pussy whatsoever!

Desire for men as strong as always.

Greater appreciation for male mentality, bonding and communication characteristics :D