activecanada wrote:But, I suddenly realized that I could ask you a question that you might annswer: what is the best type of file, in your experience - maybe something you've heard - to train a guy for a trance. I'm having trouble making hypnosis files work, and I don't think that I should go through all your text files just for that, although that would work. I don't even really like the idea of becoming more submissive. Thanks!
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First let me apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I rarely come on this site and only do so if someone summons me here by responding to something I have written and I get notified of their posting. Or if someone on here sends me a "private" message on here. Which is why I am here now and just saw your question.
"... maybe something you have heard ..."
Sorry, but I do not use audio files, so I can not recommend any for you. If there are some on here that would be good for your purpose, helpfully, someone on here will write you or respond here and tell you what you might try.
"...I'm having trouble making hypnosis files work,..."
I am going to make an assumption, (and we know what that can mean
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), by hypnotic "files", I assume you mean some of the audio files on here. Also, assuming they have been well made (meaning several different people have used them successfully), then I am going to make some comments about hypnosis in general and using audio files (or text files) that might prove to be of value to you in your quest.
First let's talk about "trance"
There are several different states of mind that are referred to as "trance"
(1) "Conscious Heightened Focus": Some "hypnotists" tell their subjects to focus their attention on the " 'sound' of my voice", or "on my words", or "on some object". This "fixation" method is not a true "hypnotic trance", but may be initially used to lead into one. (Many times it leads to "hypnotic role-play".)
(2) "Meditative State of Mind": Again this is not a "hypnotic trance", but also may be converted into one.
(3) "Drug Induced Altered Consciousness": Again not a "hypnotic trance" and usually does not lend itself to a useful "hypnotic trance". It may lead to a useful state of mind, just not a "hypnotic" one, with a few exceptions, like when Sodium Pentothal or Scopolamine (Devil's Breath or Burundanga), etc. are used.
(4) Subconscious Focus (Subconscious "Rapport"; with or without Conscious focus, and/or awareness; with or without physical relaxation): This is what is usually meant by "hypnotic trance". (Note: it does not require an altered state of consciousness). Nor does it require a physically relaxed state or an amnesia.
(5) Somnambulism: (Conscious Disassociation) This is the deepest form of hypnotic trance.
When people refer to a "hypnotic trance" as having a physical and/or mental relaxed state and/or ending with amnesia, they have no real understanding of what hypnosis is or how it really works.
Also, note in (4) above that a "hypnotic trance" can be very dynamic physically (stage hypnosis) and emotionally (religious revivals and political rallies and riots) and may end with total recall.
To obtain excellent hypnotic effects, no "consciously focused, or physically and mental relaxed hypnotic trance" is really needed. (If that were not so, advertisers wouldn't spend the tremendous sums they do spend on advertising.)
That type of "trance" is usually suggested because most beginning hypnotists and their subjects mistakenly "believe" it is necessary. And many subjects fail to enjoy hypnotic benefits because they think they have to go into that type of trance and if they don't, they believe everything failed and THAT is what causes the ultimate failure.
So, what IS helpful or necessary for excellent hypnotic results?
(1) (Helpful): Conscious consent and understanding as to what the hypnosis is going to be used for or produce in the way of change.
(2) (Helpful): Conscious expectation that what will be done will in fact "work".
(3) (Necessary): Subconscious Rapport, cooperation, expectation, and willingness to do or not do, or make the requested changes.
(4) (Very Helpful): Repetition, Repetition, Repetition! There is a very good reason why rehabilitation programs take a minimum of 28 days. It is because it takes at least that long to make or break a mental habit. Whatever suggestions you want to work permanently, they need to be repeated many times, and over an extended period of time. The more often and the longer they get repeated, the better they will work.
So, whatever audio files you listen to, make sure you do so no less than once a day and for no less that 28 days.
In my Basic Level sessions, I have my trainees read 13 different sessions, but only one different one a day. They are each separate from the others, but very similar in context. Then they repeat those same 13 sessions two more times for a total of 39 sessions over 39 days. (Doing no more than one session a day, but repeated as many times that day as time and privacy will permit. I tell them the more often they do each session the faster and better things will work.)
In my case, no trance is initially suggested directly because no trance is needed, just feeding the subconscious with my words as often as possible is all that is needed. However, over time, the subconscious will start putting the trainee into a hypnotic trance all by itself eventually on its own as it learns how to come to my session's words all by itself, separately and independently of the conscious self.
(5) (Extremely Helpful): Self-Reinforcers should be used frequently in each session to help reinforce the desired action and strengthen the response to it.
By self-reinforcers, I mean phrases that will automatically remind the subconscious to trigger some desired set of instructions. That will automatically occur throughout the days, months and years, without needing to be repeated by listening or reading another session.
Such phrases as: "Every day, with the rising of the sun, whether he sees it or not, followed by ... (whatever you want triggered.)", or "Every day in every way, followed by ... (the desired action to be triggered.)", or "(Whatever you want reinforced), followed by the words "now, always and forever.", or "With each breath the body takes, and with each beat of the heart, followed by ... (what you want triggered and reinforced)".
Or finally, something like this:
"Whenever, wherever, and however my words enter the body, you, subconscious will automatically come to my words, all by yourself, separately and independently of him. You will take control over of all of the mind and all of the body, and all of the emotions and absorb my words, making them a part of you and him and you will obey my words, or (you will cause him to obey my words), causing everything to be exactly as I want it to be, now, always, and forever.
Every day in every way, with the rising of the sun. whether he sees it or not, you, subconscious, will automatically grow stronger and deeper in my words, they will strengthen you and empower you and give you total control over all of the mind and all of the body and all of the emotions and all of the total being, separately and independently of him and they will enable you to be able to obey my words and cause him to obey my words, without thought, without doubt, without worry or concern, now, always and forever."
(6) (Extremely Helpful): Since what we are after with hypnotic suggestions is to get subconscious responses to our suggestions, then the sessions should be worded by talking to the subconscious as if it were a separate entity from the conscious personality, because it is. So, pronouns in the second person should be used to reference the subconscious and third person pronouns should be used to refer to the conscious personality.
(7) (For Maximum Results): To get maximum effect out of the sessions, whenever possible, they should somehow be tied to the mind's/body's "Pleasure Center", as a reward from doing the sessions and obeying the suggestions contained in them.
That is why all of my sessions are "jerk-off" sessions, where the trainee plays with himself sexually while being hypnotized by the session, as directed in the words. And the session always ends with an hypnotic enhanced orgasm.
Contained in the sessions' wording are suggestions to enhance the trainees sexual pleasure when directed to orgasm.
Thus not only does he enjoy doing the sessions, (A built-in reinforcer for doing them), but by giving suggestions to enhance the orgasm with each passing session, the sessions soon become addictive, thus causing the user to want to repeat them as often as possible, thus giving my words much more daily access to the subconscious and since the subconscious also enjoys the orgasms, that causes it to want to obey my words, to keep getting its orgasm reward.
Some final thoughts:
If by chance, no one on here writes you with suggestions of audio files that might better help you, then I would suggest that you take the audio files that you have been trying to get success with and write their wording out in a word processor document. Then edit them yourself to include what you want, using some of my above suggestions for enhancing them to help you make them more effective. Then either re-record your edited versions, or use their print copy as a text file session and then use them over and over on a daily basis, repeatedly, until the subconscious does kick in and give you the results you desire.
Good sessions need only take less than a half hour to read or listen to in order to produce almost any type of hypnotic result you probably want out of them, if repeated often enough and letting the subconscious do so in its own way and time frame. Put no time limit expectations as to how long it will take, just keep repeating until the subconscious figures out how to best give you what you are asking.
Hopefully, this will prove of help for you.
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