Effect of the feminisation files

[Yvonnesofla]

[color=darkred][/color]I find the files most relaxing and even tho they do not really change my body my feminine persona feels stronger for listening to them
xxx

Yvonne

[sandy82]

Sounds like you're making progress. The psychological changes will come first.

You're in harmony with the files when you find them relaxing. That's a good sign, too.

In what ways do you feel your feminine persona getting stronger?

[dark_wolf49]

I've been listening to the breast growth and hormon changes for quite awhile (a few months) and I can see a diffence in my breasts . I can wear a 38 bra ,but now it seems like it is too small for me now. I have a 40 b bra that I am gonna see if it fits the way it suppose to. if not , I guess I'll have to find one that does .

[dee]

I found that my breast's are growing also. I use to wear a b cup but now i am wearing a c cup and nipples are larger and more sensetive.

[binhguy_2001]

I have been listening to the CurseHormoneChange file twice a day, and have looped the SuggestiveFeminization file so it is continuos.
I seem to be having more of a feminine thought process starting, and as for physical changes, my nipples are more sensative and bigger.
I plan on continuing to listen every chance I get to see just how far the files will change me. So far I like what's happening. :)

[gail_tgirl]

I have been listenting to a medley of femme files, a few times a week under trance, and looped while I exercise daily, for about 6 months now.
My breasts have definitely grown, and the hair on my legs hardly ever needs shaving now. I just wish it would be that simple for my facial hair !!!!
I have just started listening to C-penis shrink, so will see where that gets me in a few months time.
Love
gail

[brandielynne]

I've been listening to a combo of all the files [the curses and others, not the triggers so much] at various times, but somewhat infrequently....I dress daily when at home, but I've noticed the compulsions to put on makeup, and paint my nails are much stronger after a recent round of the files. {I've listened more frequently this week than I have in a while, and I just had to paint my nails and toes the second I got home.]

I've also noticed that the compulsions to buy female clothing have been stronger after a round of files. And the nervousness in buying them is much less after a number of sessions.....

When I'm out of male mode, and am at home, wanting to transition into a woman becomes almost an overpowering desire. For instance, I'd love to be in a situation where I could have really long hair right now.

So I guess they work well!

[axedarkdemon14]

the only file which i listen to is the SuggestiveFeminization file cause you get to pick in your head what you want to happen rather then your head being told to do certain things.

all the other files i would never listen to cause i want to make up my own mind what changes are going to happen.

the curse files are to risky you could listen to it for a week or so then see some changes happen but then you think that you do not want them but oh course you can not stop it now cause it is a curse which will stay for the amount of time it will warp you mind and make you into what the files are saying.

[selena]

Don't know whether it's the file or my breast pump use, but I've gone fom nothing to a true, full, 38A. :wink:

[OMGWTFBBQ]

Is it just me, or is there no difference between the 2 preview pictures on that file's desc.?

[drydreamer]

I've been wondering for some time if it is REALLY possible for a transgender female's penis to remain fully functional, even when she is using hormone treatments. There seems to be a great difference between TS women who advertise in the swinger magazines, and those who post on adult forums like this. The TS ads in sexual contact magazines all claim to still have completely functional cocks (can still get hard) AND they even brag about how well hung they are! However the transgender females who post in forums like this rarely show any interest in remaining functional as males, and also rarely seem to care about how well hung they are. In fact, these latter TS women seem to be anxious to have the reassignment surgery and completely get rid of their male genitalia! Additionally, I have noticed in TS porn photos that the so-called "shemales" rarely have erections when photographed, and usually look like their male endowments are average to small. And yet the porn sites that are pushing TS photos make a big deal about how these "shemales" can fuck you up the ass! Would someone tell me which of the above examples of transgender women is more accurate? I suspect that the first example of the "well-hung shemale" is probably more hype than reality, and is intended to help the TS escort business (which is BIG where I live.) Isn't it true that most transgender females want to change COMPLETELY, get rid of their male genitalia and live as true females? Or are there a lot of these people who are trying to KEEP their male genitalia because it makes them very popular with men who want shemales (and who pay generously for their company!) I'm honestly curious about this. drydreamer

[Eve]

I know this is a bit off topic, and for that i appologise, but I am just answering the above question.

Within the 'transgendered community' everybody wants to change somehow. However, not everybody wants to change permanently or to the greatest possible level. For this reason, it is difficult to say which of your ideas is 'more accurate' as i'm certain that there are people who are in both scenarios.

I know people who want to completely change (like me), as they feel they are female, so want a body to match in the best possible way. I know one girl (and there are many others) who want to change completely but keep their male genetalia. This can be for many reasons. Firstly, they feel happy with their body as it is, so don't go any further. Also, SRS is a very dangerous surgical procedure, and some people are put off by the risks. Others don't feel that SRS would make them feel any more of a woman... and the list continues. A few of these people will later in life go on to have SRS, and I'm sure there are cases where typical 'shemales' go back to living as a man later in life if they finally realise who they are.

As for staying functional, this can be done easily. It is achieved easier if you transition earlier in life, but the key is to take hormone replacement gradually. This will prevent your testes from shutting down testosterone production completely so that you can still get exited. Also, it sounds stupid, but by regularly getting aroused, your penis won't shrink or you testes won't stop completely working.

As for shemale pornstars and escorts etc. It is sometimes the case that (particularly escorts) use their work to earn enough to finance SRS, and have to tolerate still haveing male genetalia. Others will fall into the category about being recognised as a female but maintaining male genetalia and being content.

I hope this all makes sense, and i hope i've answered your question.

xoxoxox

Eve.

[drydreamer]

Thank you Eve! I've never read a more sober and thoughtful explanation of the lives of transgender people; and I read your comments with very much interest. So often, discussions about transgender people become overwhelmed with snide remarks and predudiced comments until you can no longer get any serious answers. In regard to my post being out of context for this forum; that is my fault because I forgot to ask one little question that would have put it IN context! My original intention was to ask if hypnosis could speed or increase the effects of feminization, whether or not hormone treatments were being used; but I got so caught up in my other questions that I forgot that one.

I have never personally met a transgender female, but I have had some sexual fantasies about being with a beautiful TS woman who was still fully functional as a male. This is interesting to me, because I am absolutely NOT bi-curious; and yet the sight of an erect penis can excite me - especially if it is a nice big one! The thought of being sexual with another man makes me want to puke; but the idea of a beautiful woman with a big hard cock seems like the best of both worlds (as it is often advertised in the sex magazines.) And when you also consider that most men are really not very good at intercourse, and usually have premature ejaculations or fail to stay hard long enough; it seems like a transgender female might really NOT come into a sexual relationship with any serious handicap at all! Often, I feel that if I ever talk a woman into marrying me, she's going to have to be pretty kinky because I actually prefer oral sex to intercourse. So what difference would it make if she was a transgender female? Either way, I would not be that much into straight intercourse; and the TS would have the added attraction of her "secret charms!" So thanks again for helping me understand the world of the transgender female! And comments are welcome about my other question regarding the effects of hypnosis on feminization. drydreamer

[Eve]

I truly believe that hypnosis can help with feminisation. In my oppinion, hypnotic suggestion can change many things.

Have you ever told a lie to anybody, be it trivial or serious, and told the same lie to more people? After a while, you get so caught up in the lie, you actually start to believe it is the truth. I think this the principal behind this is the (or at least one of the) basis upon which hypnosis works.

In other words, if you were to constantly tell yourself that you were female, then eventually, you would start to believe that you were (to some extent, anyway). Knowing that you are female, and realising your body didn't match your gender would be cause for you to change yourself somehow. You would obviously vary the feminising according to your own belief, but you would be 'becoming feminised' all the same.

Although in this explanation, hypnosis doesn't change you directly, it is the spark that causes feminisation, and hence, hypnosis can cause, speed or increase feminisation.

As for hypnosis changing you directly, I have no explanation. I don't understand the processes involved enough to speculate. However, i think that hypnosis can cause you to change your hormone levels (although to what degree i have no idea). I base this on the fact that hormone levels can vary due to (for example) stress. Stress is a (for want of a better word) psycological, and is caused by external stimulants. If that is the case, then I see no reason for hypnosis to be considered an external stimulant.

I am not sure about hypnosis being able to directly change your body in an anotomical sense (for example making your penis dissappear). I know the human brain has a lot of potintial, but don't know if it's full capacity would be capable of such a feat, as suggested by certain theories. I do however, remain open minded and optimistic about this idea. Lets face it - if I could read a book which tole me how to just 'be female' then i would become female, and never ever think of reading the 'how to become male' book!

With regards to your thoughts on you being turned on by what the majority would term 'shemales', then maybe you just consider 'shemales' a third gender - a gender which is attractive to you. Whatever the case may be, I suggest you try a few things out while you can and make sure you regret nothing.

I know that sounds patronising coming from a 19 year old (I'm not exactly well lived, and am sure most people on this forum have more wisedom than me. I am also sure that you probablly knew what I said above already, and I am certain that it is all easier said than done, but what better way to end a post, than with a good 'ol cliche! lol ;-)

[asdf]

I do not believe that hypnosis can change your body directly. We each have our own reality in a sense; however, there are innumerable physical laws which our brain cannot alter. Physical reality exists, and you are there.

I love hypnosis, and it helps me to develop mentally. But I still realize that nothing short of years of therapy, drugs, and many labors can change me completely.

[gurlbidesign]

[quote="drydreamer"]I've been wondering for some time if it is REALLY possible for a transgender female's penis to remain fully functional, even when she is using hormone treatments. There seems to be a great difference between TS women who advertise in the swinger magazines, and those who post on adult forums like this. The TS ads in sexual contact magazines all claim to still have completely functional cocks (can still get hard) AND they even brag about how well hung they are! However the transgender females who post in forums like this rarely show any interest in remaining functional as males, and also rarely seem to care about how well hung they are. In fact, these latter TS women seem to be anxious to have the reassignment surgery and completely get rid of their male genitalia! Additionally, I have noticed in TS porn photos that the so-called "shemales" rarely have erections when photographed, and usually look like their male endowments are average to small. And yet the porn sites that are pushing TS photos make a big deal about how these "shemales" can fuck you up the ass! Would someone tell me which of the above examples of transgender women is more accurate? I suspect that the first example of the "well-hung shemale" is probably more hype than reality, and is intended to help the TS escort business (which is BIG where I live.) Isn't it true that most transgender females want to change COMPLETELY, get rid of their male genitalia and live as true females? Or are there a lot of these people who are trying to KEEP their male genitalia because it makes them very popular with men who want shemales (and who pay generously for their company!) I'm honestly curious about this. drydreamer[/quote]

This TS girl has had her testicles removed (orchiectomy) and while the hormones have done a good job of shrinking the penis it can still get erect and I can still reach orgasm. The problem is that as I identify totally as a woman whenever "Mr Wiggy" does become excited it quickly turns me off as something that used to happen when I was pretending to be a guy and suddenly no more erection. Perhaps (and here is the tie-in to the thread) if I can absorb the femme files that convince me that I was always a woman things would be different. Maybe it would get rid of the "Ewwwww, I am reacting like the old me" feeling that comes over me. Then again, I don't really care cause I just want the rest of the package to dissappear like the testes did. And what wasn't said in the other reply to you is that probably 99% of the transsexual girls I have met (and I belong to a support group with a large membership) would have the surgery if they could get past the money, family, health, job, etc, etc. issues that are keeping them from doing it. Very few would pass up the chance to have their body match the gender they know they are. I hope this gives you a better idea of our community.

[drydreamer]

Thanks Christine for your fascinating information! I'm being well educated here. LOL But it's a shame that good honest information about transgender people is so difficult to find. And I'm sure the porn industry has a hand in the publication of misleading information about women like you; because they stand to gain from the ignorance of men who want the so-called "shemales." Many guys really get off on the kinky fantasy of having a beautiful woman who's hung better than they are. I'm sure this is mostly a male submissive fantasy, because if such a relationship actually developed in real life, there would be a certain level of sexual humiliation in it for the guy (assuming the woman could actually perform as a male.) And I admit I've had some of those fantasies, but only in my head. This is the USA, and when your money talks, people listen. Some time ago, I discovered from comments on another adult message forum that most REAL transgender females actually HATE to be called shemales, and consider it an insult! Some of them even hate their male genitalia, because they consider it a genetic mistake and an embarrassment! So I'm sure your comments, Christine, are much more true to real life than what we read in the sex magazines. I've been having serious doubts about the "shemales" who claim to be functional as males anyway. I met a guy who actually paid for a shemale escort, and had a sexual encounter with her. He told me she never got an erection the entire time; even though her personal ad claimed she was functional! Looks like it's just another money-making racket. Thanks again, Christine! drydreamer

[gurlbidesign]

[Some time ago, I discovered from comments on another adult message forum that most REAL transgender females actually HATE to be called shemales, and consider it an insult! Some of them even hate their male genitalia, because they consider it a genetic mistake and an embarrassment! So I'm sure your comments, Christine, are much more true to real life than what we read in the sex magazines. I've been having serious doubts about the "shemales" who claim to be functional as males anyway. I met a guy who actually paid for a shemale escort, and had a sexual encounter with her. He told me she never got an erection the entire time; even though her personal ad claimed she was functional! Looks like it's just another money-making racket. Thanks again, Christine! drydreamer[/quote]

I am really not fond of any of the labels and you are right, I certainly don't like to be grouped into the "play for pay transsexual" crowd. Some of those "girls" (I call them boys with boobs) just happen to be blessed with very cute faces and have had the breast augmentation done and do in fact have functioning male genitalia. Some are on light doses of hormones which can allow function. Some are truely transsexuals (which to me means an honest identification of ones self as the opposite of ones physical gender.) but are working in that industry because the pay is great and they are saving for their reassignment surgeries. Most of us are just regular people who are forced to deal with a fairly unique problem, one which sometimes turns family, friends, and sometimes total strangers against us. It causes many to lose jobs, and houses. Those of us that didn't start young have to deal with years of...well Testosterone poisoning in my case which makes feminizing and passing as a woman out in society difficult. Which leads to many instances of finger pointing and laughing by the same people who wouldn't think of making fun of a handicapped person. I will get off my soapbox now, I am so glad that you appreciated my post, it would be nice if more were so open minded.

Hugs,
Christine

[makidas]

[quote="gurlbidesign"]it would be nice if more were so open minded.[/quote]
LOL, it's kind of difficult to be close minded on a site with such a diversity of fetishes. :wink:

[gurlbidesign]

[quote="makidas"][quote="gurlbidesign"]it would be nice if more were so open minded.[/quote]
LOL, it's kind of difficult to be close minded on a site with such a diversity of fetishes. :wink:[/quote]

Ok, I will concede that one. :lol:

[drydreamer]

At the risk of dragging this thread even more off topic, I just want to point out that the old ideas of sexual repression die hard in our society. People tend to be very judgemental toward those who have different sexual orientations or interests. Especially those who subscribe to very strict Christian religious teachings are prone to totally reject people who do not embrace the sexuality they were born with, or those who do not act like they are "supposed" to act. There is a certain siege mentality in fundamentalist teachings which seems to indicate that anyone who is different is automatically the enemy, and cannot be trusted.

Some years ago, I had the opportunity to talk a man out of commiting suicide. He happened to be gay, but I never knew until he told me. He just seemed like a normal guy to me, and did not show any effeminant traits of any kind (which are usually associated with gay men.) I spent lots of time with him for about three weeks, because you can't just drop into someone's life out of the clear blue sky and start telling them what to do! You have to earn their trust. He was trying to kill himself by overdosing on drugs and alcohol, so it took some time for his condition to deteriorate. Finally, after three weeks of this abuse, his body began to shut down. He told me he couldn't pee anymore. That's when he asked me to take his gay porn mags and videos to my place SO HIS FOLKS WOULD NOT FIND OUT HE WAS GAY! It was okay with him for his relatives to find him DEAD; but not okay for them to find out he was gay! That's how much his sexual preference had been repressed! He told me I was the only straight guy he ever met who continued to be his friend after learning that he was gay. I took his bag of gay porn stuff and stuck it in a corner of my apartment; but fortunately I finally managed to talk him out of killing himself. When he was released from the hospital, he came back and told me I was an angel sent from God. He said he could not even remember why he had wanted to kill himself! And of course, I gave him his gay porn back. But it's truely amazing how fucked up people can get over the rejection they experience because of their sexual orientation or preferences! That's why it's really wonderful that we have a forum like this where we can talk out these feelings! drydreamer

[makidas]

Well said DryDreamer!

[MRV35]

[quote="drydreamer":78a61/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ic1]it's truely amazing how fucked up people can get over the rejection they experience because of their sexual orientation or preferences! That's why it's really wonderful that we have a forum like this where we can talk out these feelings! drydreamer[/quote:78a61/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ic1]

I agree with you. What is worse is how society treat us to begin with. I believe that being gay is much more accepted that being transgendered. I am sure that if tomorrow I told everyone at work that I was gay it would be better accepted than if I told everyone that once in a while I like to transform myself into a woman. Though both groups are dicriminated against, gays have gained more acceptance in society. Those of us that are transgendered have to live with ridicule everywhere including tv and movies. I also agree that many of people think it is a joke or a halloween costume when you go out dressed. Who knows how long before we have a better standing within society.

[gurlbidesign]

[quote="MRV35"][quote="drydreamer"]it's truely amazing how fucked up people can get over the rejection they experience because of their sexual orientation or preferences! That's why it's really wonderful that we have a forum like this where we can talk out these feelings! drydreamer[/quote]

I agree with you. What is worse is how society treat us to begin with. I believe that being gay is much more accepted that being transgendered. I am sure that if tomorrow I told everyone at work that I was gay it would be better accepted than if I told everyone that once in a while I like to transform myself into a woman. Though both groups are dicriminated against, gays have gained more acceptance in society. Those of us that are transgendered have to live with ridicule everywhere including tv and movies. I also agree that many of people think it is a joke or a halloween costume when you go out dressed. Who knows how long before we have a better standing within society.[/quote]

I am starting to see more shows on the trans issue that treat it with some dignity and respect. I am out and open about my situation and will talk to anyone who is interested. I feel that the more people who realize that we are not a "threat" to them and that we just want to get on with our lives the better. Just to keep this loosely hanging by the thread.....I am listening to LRWoman, and the SuperWhammy files along with Breast and Nipple growth curses but the closest I have come to going into trance was with the Milky curse of all things. Lactation in and of itself being less desireable apart from the resultant breast growth which I would welcome.

[Eve]

[quote:3f/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ic85fd]Who knows how long before we have a better standing within society[/quote:3f/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ic85fd]

I know that I wasn't around, but just think about 2/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i years ago, and where the general social standing on homosexuality was then. In my (limited) oppinion, now, although homosexuality in some cases is still seen to be unacceptable, the heneral social standing is a much more acceptant one.

If this is the case for homosexuality, then surely the same must follow for transsexuality. That said, it is obviously going to take a long time, and this shift in social acceptance probablly won't affect any of our lives, but may help the imminantly growing transgendered community in the future. Then again, based on this time scale, when it is socially acceptable to be transgendered, they will have invented a sex change pill or something! (An invention that can't come soon enough - I don't care if it costs me everything... i'm gonna buy one!)

Anyway, back from dreamland for the time being! lol.

[makidas]

Isn't it funny how these things can go so off topic. XD

[primaelgen]

This deviates from the current flow of the conversation ... and relates to an earlier message about whether hypnosis can actually create physical changes. I've read a couple FAQs claiming that the penis does not, indeed shrink, even with hormonal treatments.

On the other hand, I have seen x-rays of bone regeneration of a tai chi practioner. He was well in his twilight years (70? maybe older?) and had his hip cracked. In searching on information about gynecomastia, I also came across another pair of x-ray showing bone regeneration in the hips taking place over 10 years.

This doesn't sound improbable to me, since I had the advantage of reading the book, the Body Electric. Bone is the only part of the body that can regenerate. The doctor who wrote this book not only showed how using extremely minute electrical currents can stimulate bone growth, he was actuallyable to demonstrate a temporary "de-evolution" of cells. In other words, he was able to cause certain bone cells to turn temporarily into stem cells, from which the bone can then regenerate. This was published in the late 1970s. It does anger me a bit to hear all of this controversy over embryonic stem-cell research when there were already existing reesearch that can bypass the whole usage of embryonic stem cells.

In the language of the mystics, there are maps who describe exactly this process of regeneration. The body is first made healthy, healthy enough for a strong bio-electric current induced in the bone marrows to create a pool of these de-evolved cells. Those circulate the body and start repairing the body.

Additionally -- and this gets off more in the deep end -- there is something called "manna", the Hebrew word for "white bread". This is refering to the alchemical substance called "philosopher's gold" (which is apparently not made from gold ... ). The Egyptians called this ormus. Searching the net for "ormus' will lead you to, for example, a walnut tree fed ormus-rich water that grows walnuts the size of fists. There is another, of a man using copper-Ormus where his mostly grey beard turned brown again. There is a diary of a woman who, along with her husband, built the m-water trap and drank it for several months. Generally, they became younger and healthier ... both mentally, physically, and emotionally. They are regaining the strength of youth while retaining the wisdom of experience. How's that for lucky?

Certain types of ORMUS is said to be able to correct DNA. From other mystical traditions, there are ways to correct that which you inherit from your ancestors. There are also reports I've read demonstrating mutations in DNA within a single life cycle, which can be passed on to future generations. There's a whole body of mystical traditions dealing with manipulating human bloodlines.

These TS, somewhere in the mind is the consciousness of a female in the body of a male. It's not because there is something "wrong", however, that does not make the pain and suffering these TS have any less real. To fully change the body into a fully-functional female is the Holy Grail ... and the funny thing is, that expression is used commonly to describe a silly, impractical, impossible romantic quest when in fact, there is a basis in fact. Besides being a horrible pun, if you knew the mystic languages.

PrimaelGen Project

[kingpenguin]

[quote="binhguy_2/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i1"]I have been listening to the CurseHormoneChange file twice a day, and have looped the SuggestiveFeminization file so it is continuos.
I seem to be having more of a feminine thought process starting, and as for physical changes, my nipples are more sensative and bigger.
I plan on continuing to listen every chance I get to see just how far the files will change me. So far I like what's happening. :)[/quote] :)

[kingpenguin]

my nipples are also more sensative and why does he call it a curse when it feels so good :)

[Justine]

primaelgen, I know what u r talking about. I am taking ormus (mainly Iridium and Rhodium, and silver every now and again. Thing is I'm rather using it to connect to the body I currently find myself in. It makes me feel better about myself, it's a higher form of healing.

[primaelgen]

Justine,

Are you also doing any of the body shaping changes? I would be very interested in talking to you about ormus (over private message). Thank you.

PrimaelGen Project

[gurlbidesign]

[quote="primaelgen":e/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/if6feb8]This deviates from the current flow of the conversation ... and relates to an earlier message about whether hypnosis can actually create physical changes. I've read a couple FAQs claiming that the penis does not, indeed shrink, even with hormonal treatments.

On the other hand, I have seen x-rays of bone regeneration of a tai chi practioner. He was well in his twilight years (7/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i? maybe older?) and had his hip cracked. In searching on information about gynecomastia, I also came across another pair of x-ray showing bone regeneration in the hips taking place over 1/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i years.

This doesn't sound improbable to me, since I had the advantage of reading the book, the Body Electric. Bone is the only part of the body that can regenerate. The doctor who wrote this book not only showed how using extremely minute electrical currents can stimulate bone growth, he was actuallyable to demonstrate a temporary "de-evolution" of cells. In other words, he was able to cause certain bone cells to turn temporarily into stem cells, from which the bone can then regenerate. This was published in the late 197/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/is. It does anger me a bit to hear all of this controversy over embryonic stem-cell research when there were already existing reesearch that can bypass the whole usage of embryonic stem cells.

In the language of the mystics, there are maps who describe exactly this process of regeneration. The body is first made healthy, healthy enough for a strong bio-electric current induced in the bone marrows to create a pool of these de-evolved cells. Those circulate the body and start repairing the body.

Additionally -- and this gets off more in the deep end -- there is something called "manna", the Hebrew word for "white bread". This is refering to the alchemical substance called "philosopher's gold" (which is apparently not made from gold ... ). The Egyptians called this ormus. Searching the net for "ormus' will lead you to, for example, a walnut tree fed ormus-rich water that grows walnuts the size of fists. There is another, of a man using copper-Ormus where his mostly grey beard turned brown again. There is a diary of a woman who, along with her husband, built the m-water trap and drank it for several months. Generally, they became younger and healthier ... both mentally, physically, and emotionally. They are regaining the strength of youth while retaining the wisdom of experience. How's that for lucky?

Certain types of ORMUS is said to be able to correct DNA. From other mystical traditions, there are ways to correct that which you inherit from your ancestors. There are also reports I've read demonstrating mutations in DNA within a single life cycle, which can be passed on to future generations. There's a whole body of mystical traditions dealing with manipulating human bloodlines.

These TS, somewhere in the mind is the consciousness of a female in the body of a male. It's not because there is something "wrong", however, that does not make the pain and suffering these TS have any less real. To fully change the body into a fully-functional female is the Holy Grail ... and the funny thing is, that expression is used commonly to describe a silly, impractical, impossible romantic quest when in fact, there is a basis in fact. Besides being a horrible pun, if you knew the mystic languages.

PrimaelGen Project[/quote:e/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/if6feb8]

Ummm, if the penis doesn't shrink from hormone usage I would like to know where the rest of mine went, I want to send what I have left to the same place.

[Ohka]

I was wondering if you listen to SuggestiveFemmenazation if it is reversible or is it like a curse?

[jamesrblack]

Hormones don't cause the penis to shrink.....the lack of an erection causes it. It actually is true...if you don't use it, you lose it. Alot of transsexuals who cannot get an erection who still want it a descent size use pumps to pull blood flow in and get a forced erection. My ex who was ts also, wanted no stimulation what-so-ever of her penis, well not until it was itty-bitty anyway. Of course she did have her testes removed, oddly enough not by choice, but atleast insurance paid for it. If you don't believe me, just keep stretching and pulling and you will notice it getting longer at least over time. The thickness can only be caused by the increased blood flow.[color=indigo][/color]

[primaelgen]

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Ummm, if the penis doesn't shrink from hormone usage I would like to know where the rest of mine went, I want to send what I have left to the same place.[/quote:/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i17cf271]

I'm not sure if I wrote anything about penis shrinkage. Some of the articles I have read said it was a myth. They also don't know about ormus. The stuff I wrote a while back on my site claims penis shrinkage.

I wrote about DNA and regeneration to claim it is possible to affect changes at a cellular level, possibly including changes in genital tissues.

PrimaelGen Project

[gurlbidesign]

As I am unwilling to see if I can make it grow I will accept your claim about shrinkage. I to have had my testicles removed...by choice, and can hardly wait to get the rest of the plumbing sorted out.