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Hypnotic Steroids

Postby JackDrago » January 9th, 2016, 12:54 pm

Hi guys, I have been testing out my new Hypnotic Steroids trance and I thought that you might like to know how it has been working for me / us. (Butch gets way more out of it than I do).

Background

I have been doing masculinization hypnosis for about 16 months now and I have had considerable success with compulsion to exercise and building a jock alter to do it. Lately, though, Butch feels like he has been hitting a wall in the gym and wants to take it to the next level. His suggestion was real steroids, but that's against our program so I decided to test the hypothesis that we can do it with hypnosis.

I have always been strongly Susceptible to the placebo effect. I get shadow sick when I read about diseases on the Internet, I have managed to fry on plain graph paper because I believed that it was LSD back in my drug days. I was even addicted to placebo for a while some years ago: I was hooked on herbal sleeping pills and there was a scandal where it was proven that there was nothing in them despite the fact that there was nothing in them.

Because of this experience, it seemed to me that the placebo effect would be a good hook to get the effects of steriods without actually taking any chemicals (I am almost a year sober now and I draw a hard line about putting artificial enhancements to my mind/body chemistry these days.)

Method

We finished the file on December 27th and began listening that night. After a few days of burn in we began to actually take a little white pill every day (I use a 250mg Vitamin C, though it totally doesn't matter what is actually in the pill. Anything would work. ) In the time since, I have listened every night before bed, and Butch has taken the pill about 20 minutes before exercising on a 3 days on, 1 day off pattern.

I will turn it over to Butch to tell you what it's like.

Experience
Yo dudes! What up?

Fucking A, bros! This trance is hella strong . I am feeling totally roided in the gym just about every time I work out, man. I started taking the pills on the first of the month, dude, and I can hella feel it.

Probably the first thing that changed were my goals, man. Jack and I had a goal of our body looking like a porn star, bro: lean and buff as shit, but not particularly bulky. That goal went out the fucking window on the first listen, dudes. Now I got a new goal: I wanna be a roided looking muscle beast, man. The bigger the fucking better, bro. 300lbs gorilla? Fuck yeah!

As for how it works... About 20 minutes after I take the pill, I start getting all super focused on lifting weights and shit. I feel that roid rage coming on, man, and I just get all into swinging the weights and being super aggressive about how I lift, bro.

I ain't gonna lie to you, bro, Hypnotic Steroids has had quite a few side effects. The change in hormone levels has been kinda extreme. The first couple days, man, our testosterone levels were going up and down like a fucking roller-coaster! I got so fucking emotional that the songs in my workout playlist made me cry like a pussy on the second day. Dude! I am so glad I ain't a woman, dude, 'cuz I ain't man enough by half to go through a huge hormone fluctuation every month. Lucky for me that shit settled down to a constant high testosterone level within a few days of starting the pills.

Our exercise habits immediately started improving, dudes. I have been hypnotically compulsive about exercise for a year or so, man, but this trance instantly took that shit to the next level, if you know what I mean. We went from 3-4 exercise days a week to a regular 3 days on, one day off pattern, dude, and so far Jack and I have stuck to it with no conscious effort to change it.

I think that it's still too soon to say if it really works in the long term, bro, but I can definitely say that the effects have been noticeable in the gym already. Dude! I have gone from 16 reps at 50lbs up to 26 reps in the first 3 days, and then I upped the weight to 55lbs, and have already gained 5 reps on that weight in the next 3 workout days. So far so good.


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I am very curious about whether this trance works for other people. If any of the half dozen or so people who have downloaded the trance so far are willing to post their own experience with it, I would be most grateful.

I have also been kicking around the idea of testing it in a more rigorous way. I have finally written a trance that rises to the level of a testable hypothesis and I truly wish that I had the resources to test it properly. My hypothesis is that if you gave a set of subjects this trance and measured their testosterone level you would be able to detect a rise in T between before the first listening to after a few weeks on the little white pill and that the rise would happen significantly more often than the uninduced placebo effect in a control group.

A shame that I don't have a university lab and a big pool of subjects to test it properly. However, if there's anyone in the group who has a starting testosterone level already and would be willing to get another after doing my trance for a month and working out; post your test level here or PM it to me and I will give you a free copy.
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Postby psiboi1977 » January 12th, 2016, 12:35 am

Sounds like fun...
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Postby hypnot » January 12th, 2016, 2:12 pm

I'd love to try this file out!! If you need another tester, please let me know.
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Postby psiboi1977 » January 13th, 2016, 7:18 am

That goes for me as well
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Postby WatDo » January 16th, 2016, 5:43 pm

I'd be game to try it.
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Postby JackDrago » January 16th, 2016, 7:02 pm

Potential subjects: you can get a testosterone test kit from Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00846J5YO/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awdm_bpiMwb1YSGGJK. If you have insurance you can get a test from your doctor. --- Jack

Update on our progress, bros: I have gone from 19 to 25 reps on the new weight and am ready to move up again soon. Dude! Our shirts are getting tight in the chest and biceps. I feel fucking awesome in the gym, bros.

This shit is working for us, dude. -- Butch
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Postby JackDrago » January 23rd, 2016, 4:30 pm

I find it really interesting the number of private messages I have gotten on this point, so I guess that I should just adress it openly.

Will this trance work if I am sceptical of the Placebo Effect?

Hypnosis is all about changing attitudes and beliefs. It doesn't matter if you believe in the the placebo effect to start with. If the trance works at all you will simply adopt the belief that it does. I can say for myself that I went in sceptical, and am now a true believer in the placebo effect, and I imagine that this portion of the trance will probably take for most subjects.

The conscious mind reads the trance as an argument with one thing depending on another. The subconscious doesn't think that way: it reads a list of suggestions and just blindly accepts some subset of them each time you listen. It's main test of veracity is "the more times I have heard this, the more likely" over time, if you do a file enough all those suggestions take at a subconscious level.

Even if that particular suggestion failed to take, there is no logical necessity that the other suggestions in the trance would have to fail. If the subject didn't believe in the placebo effect, the little white pill would be a pure hypnotic testosterone release trigger for that subject. So there's still a good chance that the trance would result in testosterone release anyways.

But what if hypnosis can't do that?
Well, that's the very thing that I am trying to test. I went in open minded on this question but I find that the file has brainwashed away all doubts, which is why I wanted an objective measure in other subjects). I find myself stuck in the very self fulfilling prophecy the later part of the trance promises.

Before writing the file I would have said 50/50, after experiencing it's effects I am 100% convinced that it works for me because my muscles are growing. Most of the file, time wise, is devoted to exercise motivation, focus in the gym, visualizing results, etc. So even without testosterone release your behavior might change in a way that made your muscles grow. When your muscles grow, you are programed to be convinced that the argument in the trance is true.

So I find myself in the paradoxical position of being a true believer because I am programmed to be and yet knowing full well that the experiment itself can still prove me wrong despite the fact that I am making awesome progress at attaining my real underlying goal of having a more muscular body. Yet, if I achieve my goals, does it really matter how?

-- Jack
Yo dudes!

Progress update: increased weight to 55lbs, anout 2 weeks faster than usual for a new weight, bros, have gone from 10 to 16 reps in the last 3 workout days. Starting to look noticeably swole , man!

Dude! I was rocking this manly spandex muscle shirt, and it ain't never been tight in the guns before, bro, but yesterday it was. Chest, too. I can see the muscles bulging more and more.

MAN UP! -- Butch
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Postby OxyFemboi » January 24th, 2016, 1:03 pm

Considering how easily I go into trance and accept suggestions, I'm not the best measure of how effective a file is. *clears throat* However, for what it's worth, the file is working splendidly for me. It also really helps that, of the six prescription medications I take every twelve hours, two are pure tiny white capsules and one is a tiny, extremely slightly (about the shade of one drop of ink in a gallon of white paint) off-white tablet. So, I'm taking six tiny white pills every day.

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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby rubberdog » February 18th, 2016, 3:21 am

Red and I are up for being test subjects for this, too. ;)
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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby JackDrago » March 6th, 2016, 12:59 pm

Yo dudes, Butch here!

Fuck, bros, ain't nobody reading or writing in the jock forum since the site update! That fucking sucks , dudes. I miss all my bros, so I figured I would catch up on my progress with you guys and shit.

Hypnotic Steroids works
Dude! I just finished my first 100 little white pills and I can now say for certain that Hypnotic Steroids is the most powerful file that I have ever tried, bro. No lie, dude! We have made shitloads of files, man, and tested a bunch of 'em, and nothing has ever been this powerful in producing real change.

I am working out 5-6 days a week for 2 hours a day, bro, and it feels like it ain't enough. I feel roided as fuck, dude, and I am hella aggressive about lifting heavier and for more reps. I'm growing chest hair like crazy, bros, and the only side effects have been extreme horniness and a bit of body acne.

My guns have grown a good 3" since I started this trance, man, and my pecs have gone from kinda flat to big ol slamb of man-tit. My quads have gone from OK to ripped, bro, and you can now trace all four heads of the quad. I ain't weighed us yet, dudes, but I would guess we've put on a good 10lbs of muscle since I started the trance.

MAN UP! -- Butch
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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby OxyFemboi » March 6th, 2016, 8:57 pm

Butch wrote
Yo dudes, Butch here!

Fuck, bros, ain't nobody reading or writing in the jock forum since the site update! That fucking sucks , dudes. I miss all my bros, so I figured I would catch up on my progress with you guys and shit.


Butch Bro,

Nobody been posting anything anywhere since the site upgrade! The new system of letting people know what is new is fucking complicated, bro! Red/black, scrolling/not scrolling, red dot/no red dot, star/no star, ... Hell, even Oxy ain't figured it out. {He's resorted to checking dates under the name of last poster to see if anybody posted.] I pity the poor newbies ...

There is also no e-mails saying that "there is a new post on a thread you're following". That's not a problem of the update but a problem EMG has with the ... provider or whatever.

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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby Drake69 » April 16th, 2016, 10:50 pm

I'm currently trying to get buff again for my master elder lord draconis. I need hypnotic roids and a way to submit to him completely.
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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby JackDrago » April 17th, 2016, 2:29 pm

Yo dudes!

What up, bros? Dude! I totally didn't notice that I ain't posted in this thread in ages and I actually have shit to report. I ain't gonna lie to you, bros, my weightlifting shot up like a fucking rocket for the first three months of the trance, but the last one has been a hell of a lot slower, man. I fucked up our elbow tendon lifting too aggressively or some shit, and it took me a good month and a half to recover, dudes.

For the record, bro, I have put on another 10lbs of solid muscles since we started the trance, and I am now curling 32.5 Lbs and benching 65. Dude! My guns and quads are growing so fast that I am getting fucking stretch marks and shit. But I guess that is the price you pay for rapid growth. You know what I am saying, man?

MAN UP! -- Butch
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Re: Hypnotic Steroids

Postby Drake69 » April 17th, 2016, 8:29 pm

Fuck I want the bro juice
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