I just re-enforced a couple of my triggers. Hopefully they work. I have one that drives me crazy sexyally without giving me release. that one is not from this site. But it is very effective. you can find it on my yahoo profile (littlecaltoy@yahoo.com), if you want to IM or email it to me. I've also played with a couple from this site. I've not had much success with the trig slave one. But the email slave one seems to put me out & tranced really well. Not 100% sure how effective it is yet, though, since i've only really tried it once. That seemed to work pretty well, though. Next step is to re-enforce the email slave trigger. Maybe i'll do that today. -- cal